Frontier Negotiations Discussion
#1871
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Spirit cancelled over 300 flights that week, 90 in one day. That's what got them in trouble, it was fast and furious. So it wasn't a small minority. Not to mention their union leaders were involved, because they were named in the TRO.
#1875
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#1876
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Nobody here is trying to incite or condone an illegal work action. What you are seeing is a handful of p!ssed off professionals who don't want to work voluntary overtime for a company that doesn't appreciate them. We are simply voicing our personal opinions about our jobs, just like any other career message board. I've never done a JA/VJA trip, so my "status quo" will maintain that. You guys are free to do whatever you want.
#1877
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
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Spirit management lost $64M last May based on their own poor management combined with some seriously bad weather. They successfully blamed us (the pilots) when we had nothing to do with it and then convinced the NMB that it was fair to take that $64M right out of our contract. Then we voted for that garbage like a bunch of fools. See you all in 8 years when we will be right back where we were three months ago.
The judge that handed down our TRO didn’t even allow ALPA to speak to him before his decision. The company used pages and pages of threads from APC as evidence. A site anyone can post on including management and Ford and Harrison posing as pilots. The whole thing was a complete joke and a perfect example of how organized labor is viewed in this country these days. Also remember when speaking to scheduling you are being recorded. Don’t speak for the group when you don’t represent the group. Handle your business and be professional.
The judge that handed down our TRO didn’t even allow ALPA to speak to him before his decision. The company used pages and pages of threads from APC as evidence. A site anyone can post on including management and Ford and Harrison posing as pilots. The whole thing was a complete joke and a perfect example of how organized labor is viewed in this country these days. Also remember when speaking to scheduling you are being recorded. Don’t speak for the group when you don’t represent the group. Handle your business and be professional.
#1878
Spirit management lost $64M last May based on their own poor management combined with some seriously bad weather. They successfully blamed us (the pilots) when we had nothing to do with it and then convinced the NMB that it was fair to take that $64M right out of our contract. Then we voted for that garbage like a bunch of fools. See you all in 8 years when we will be right back where we were three months ago.
The judge that handed down our TRO didn’t even allow ALPA to speak to him before his decision. The company used pages and pages of threads from APC as evidence. A site anyone can post on including management and Ford and Harrison posing as pilots. The whole thing was a complete joke and a perfect example of how organized labor is viewed in this country these days. Also remember when speaking to scheduling you are being recorded. Don’t speak for the group when you don’t represent the group. Handle your business and be professional.
The judge that handed down our TRO didn’t even allow ALPA to speak to him before his decision. The company used pages and pages of threads from APC as evidence. A site anyone can post on including management and Ford and Harrison posing as pilots. The whole thing was a complete joke and a perfect example of how organized labor is viewed in this country these days. Also remember when speaking to scheduling you are being recorded. Don’t speak for the group when you don’t represent the group. Handle your business and be professional.
Be normal, fly normal, act normal. Lots of management trolls on here now trying to incite anger and frustration.
We are on the 10 yard line. Save the party for the first day of the strike, which probably won’t even happen anyway.
#1879
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Joined APC: May 2013
Position: CRJ-200 CA
Posts: 434
Which 10 yard line?? At this point I’d say it’s our own 10 yard line... yea I’m p!ssed and frustrated and I’m getting tired of making these fools money... but if I take the emotion out of it, what evidence is out there that will lead me to believe we’ll get anything to vote on this year?? What evidence is there that we’ll have anything WORTH voting on this decade?? People keep showing up... people keep jumping on 40 hour 2 days... the worst part about it is the NMB will probably view the 50 or so out of 1200 that do these incentivized trips as the new status quo so now we’re painting ourselves into a corner and the majority of the group has zero say in it... then when the nmb doesn’t release us and people get truly p!ssed and MAYBE stop doing them, then we’ll get a tro slapped on us for not maintaining the norm... this pilot group is about as unified as this company is adept at running an airline... pretty much non existent
#1880
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 146
Which 10 yard line?? At this point I’d say it’s our own 10 yard line... yea I’m p!ssed and frustrated and I’m getting tired of making these fools money... but if I take the emotion out of it, what evidence is out there that will lead me to believe we’ll get anything to vote on this year?? What evidence is there that we’ll have anything WORTH voting on this decade?? People keep showing up... people keep jumping on 40 hour 2 days... the worst part about it is the NMB will probably view the 50 or so out of 1200 that do these incentivized trips as the new status quo so now we’re painting ourselves into a corner and the majority of the group has zero say in it... then when the nmb doesn’t release us and people get truly p!ssed and MAYBE stop doing them, then we’ll get a tro slapped on us for not maintaining the norm... this pilot group is about as unified as this company is adept at running an airline... pretty much non existent
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