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Old 11-12-2018, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AncientAliens View Post
This will basically come down to the guys who planned ahead, lived within their means, and are willing to hold out for as long as it takes to get a truly industry standard contract vs. those living paycheck to paycheck who will jump at the first scrap the company throws their way. I truly hope the former outnumber the latter.
Spoken like a true trust fund baby.
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by butthert View Post
Spoken like a true trust fund baby.
Reaaaally? Do you want to go there? It's ok. You take your yes vote to receive partial compensation because you're not a fund baby so therefore you can't manage your financial affairs.
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver View Post
Aside from 5 hours per calendar day, what's the difference between the other two?
5 hour average FDP would only be worth a minimum of 5 times the number of duty periods (or 1:3.5 trip rig, whichever is greater).

5 straight minimum per duty period means each duty period is worth a minimum of 5 in and of itself.

For example...

Take a 4-day trip with 3 duty periods...

Day 1 = 3 hours of flying
Day 2 = Hotel appreciation
Day 3 = 8 hours of flying
Day 4 = 6 hours of flying

Rig aside, under an average duty period this trip will pay 17 hours (straight block basically).

If not average you’d still get 5 hours credit for day 1 even though you only work 3. That would pay 19 hours.

We don’t have an average calendar day but it we had a 5 hour average calendar day it would pay 20 hours.
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by butthert View Post
Spoken like a true trust fund baby.
Nope, just held off on the McMansion and the new car until I could comfortably afford them knowing the time would come when sacrifices would need to be made in order to secure a contract commensurate with my professional peers.
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CantStayAway View Post
5 hour average FDP would only be worth a minimum of 5 times the number of duty periods (or 1:3.5 trip rig, whichever is greater).

5 straight minimum per duty period means each duty period is worth a minimum of 5 in and of itself.

For example...

Take a 4-day trip with 3 duty periods...

Day 1 = 3 hours of flying
Day 2 = Hotel appreciation
Day 3 = 8 hours of flying
Day 4 = 6 hours of flying

Rig aside, under an average duty period this trip will pay 17 hours (straight block basically).

If not average you’d still get 5 hours credit for day 1 even though you only work 3. That would pay 19 hours.

We don’t have an average calendar day but it we had a 5 hour average calendar day it would pay 20 hours.
Got it, thanks.
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by butthert View Post
Spoken like a true trust fund baby.
I'm no trust fund baby but I've lived somewhere between a 1st year and 2nd year FO for the purpose of being prepared. It sure will be nice when we get a raise as I have no reason to have a more expensive lifestyle, life will get easier real quick. I've mentioned the time value of money in a previous post before the AIP was released to clarify that even something a little sub par could still be worth passing based on how long it could take to negotiate improvements. This AIP is too far behind thus the improvements we deserve are by far worth waiting for. Your personal poor financial planning is not everyone else's problem, but you are making it that way. But what else would you expect from an individual who is butt hurt? Not butt hurt about being bent over by management for years, but rather that your peers don't understand why you are entitled to take money away from their families because you can't manage your own.
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:15 PM
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Funny how some of the guys preaching the loudest to vote this down are also the ones that picked up the most incentivized trips!
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Patternholder View Post
Funny how some of the guys preaching the loudest to vote this down are also the ones that picked up the most incentivized trips!
Guess how much I picked up?

Although that would be ironic, much like having a username like yours and voting yes to this, none of that matters now though.
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Patternholder View Post
Funny how some of the guys preaching the loudest to vote this down are also the ones that picked up the most incentivized trips!
Wonder what that dude that has 300 hrs credit in June has to say.
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Old 11-12-2018, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohreallynow View Post
Wonder what that dude that has 300 hrs credit in June has to say.
Which one? We had a bunch.
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