Frontier Negotiations Discussion
11-16-2018 | 08:18 PM
#3431
On Reserve
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11-17-2018 | 05:01 AM
#3432
Line Holder
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The whole reason PBS exists is to avoid conflicts and conflict drops. Your vacation will be put on your schedule and slide prior to line building. You will get two buffer days to put on your schedule on either side as well to “protect days off” after the line is built to guarantee at least 9 days off in a row. Same thing with training days too. How many actual days off you get or if you end up on reserve because you can’t build a line with enough credit depends on your seniority number. Oh yeah, that’s right, if you can’t get enough credit but people junior to you can. PBS will build a line for junior pilots and you will be on reserve by default. Life under PBS can be quite interesting.
11-17-2018 | 06:47 AM
#3433
Gets Weekends Off
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Are we sure about these two "buffer" days that will go along side our vacation? I never heard of this. So a 7 day vacation is guaranteed to be 9 days? What if your vacation is the beginning of the month? 1st thru 7th? Or the last. Where did you hear this?
11-17-2018 | 10:09 AM
#3436
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Line Holder
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I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised. There are more pilots on property who do NOT benefit from the wages, PBS and bonus check than who do...
I’m thinking it doesn’t pass - about 70% no vote.
We may be last in every customer service metric but we’re not stupid. Nobody takes the first offer in a negotiation.
I’m thinking it doesn’t pass - about 70% no vote.
We may be last in every customer service metric but we’re not stupid. Nobody takes the first offer in a negotiation.
11-17-2018 | 10:33 AM
#3437
Hold my beer, watch this.
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From: Airbus Pilot
I currently average about 45 hours of dropped credit with one week of vacation with our current system so PBS vacation credit would end up with a net loss of 10 hours per week of vacation. Worse.
11-17-2018 | 10:39 AM
#3438
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Adding the two days Guarantees you have those days off. Also, right now your guaranteed 75 hours of credit no matter what your line is built to. Based on that I would imagine pbs will try and build at least 75 credit. No more of these 60ish block lines that pay 75 credit. You don't have add the two days if you don't want and if you do you can elect (not sure if you can elect not to yet?) to take from your vac credit. So you would essentially be starting with 45 credit. This information if based on conversations with negotiators (I haven't seen the language).
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11-17-2018 | 10:44 AM
#3439
Stirring the pot
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From: Off reserve 🤫
I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised. There are more pilots on property who do NOT benefit from the wages, PBS and bonus check than who do...
I’m thinking it doesn’t pass - about 70% no vote.
We may be last in every customer service metric but we’re not stupid. Nobody takes the first offer in a negotiation.
I’m thinking it doesn’t pass - about 70% no vote.
We may be last in every customer service metric but we’re not stupid. Nobody takes the first offer in a negotiation.
Didn’t you read.....it was the 4th offer......HEAVY SARCASM!!!!!!
NO.....
11-17-2018 | 11:01 AM
#3440
Gets Weekends Off
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From: 1900D CA
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