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Old 08-17-2017, 07:40 AM
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Click on this link:
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Be sure to click on the menu button to access several other pages containing info on "Pay and Benefits," "Quality of Life," and "The Details."
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Originally Posted by DrJekyll MrHyde View Post
Click on this link:
Frontier Pilot Facts

Be sure to click on the menu button to access several other pages containing info on "Pay and Benefits," "Quality of Life," and "The Details."
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same here, why did they change it
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The website has supposedly exceeded it's bandwidth but should be back up shortly according to someone else on the internet 😬
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It's back up!

http://frontierpilotfacts.com/

Make sure to look at all the pages at the top.

The pay and benefits page comparison of CA to FO pay is a definite wake up call!

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The one thing that it doesn't show is the average top pay of all the recently negotiated contracts. For Captains it's around $253/hr, and for FOs it's around $173/hr.

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Originally Posted by I like BIG Bus View Post
The one thing that it doesn't show is the average top pay of all the recently negotiated contracts. For Captains it's around $253/hr, and for FOs it's around $173/hr.
Yes that would be an good graph to show pattern bargaining in the last few years. We (and Spirit) drag the entire industry average down.
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So when we shoot for industry average is that before or after we remove our old rate from the average?
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Originally Posted by sulkair View Post
So when we shoot for industry average is that before or after we remove our old rate from the average?

We're shooting for industry standard, not industry average. The new standard is the average of recently negotiated pay/benefit items; that's pattern bargaining. You don't get to include the old contracts that are past or near their amendable date in determining the new standard. Management agrees with this concept, but only when it suites them (i.e. when an economic downturn hits and airlines begin asking for major concessions to stem further losses).
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