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Old 01-17-2018 | 09:06 AM
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I was offered an interview this morning. During the phone call, I was informed that there isn't really a pool with Frontier and that pending a successful interview, they want their new hires to begin class as soon as possible.

I am considering a possible March interview and was informed that I would most likely begin class in April. However, my wife is pregnant with a due date in June. Does Frontier have any sort of paternity leave policy or leave of absence policy?

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Old 01-17-2018 | 10:12 AM
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Don’t mention it in the interview. If you want to job take it and worry about time off once you’re on property.
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Old 01-17-2018 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by armypilot
I was offered an interview this morning. During the phone call, I was informed that there isn't really a pool with Frontier and that pending a successful interview, they want their new hires to begin class as soon as possible.

I am considering a possible March interview and was informed that I would most likely begin class in April. However, my wife is pregnant with a due date in June. Does Frontier have any sort of paternity leave policy or leave of absence policy?

Thanks!
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Of course there's no pool! They can only get like six suckers to show up at a time. In fact I can almost hear BB and BF laughing everytime people show up for interviews and classes saying, " I can't believe we're still finding pilots desperate enough to show up, heh heh heh. " Good luck with the interview, maybe you'll meet someone in your new hire class that you can share a couch with at some air B&B to save some money during training! You're gonna need it!

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Old 01-17-2018 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by armypilot
I was offered an interview this morning. During the phone call, I was informed that there isn't really a pool with Frontier and that pending a successful interview, they want their new hires to begin class as soon as possible.

I am considering a possible March interview and was informed that I would most likely begin class in April. However, my wife is pregnant with a due date in June. Does Frontier have any sort of paternity leave policy or leave of absence policy?

Thanks!
AP
In the past, I have heard that they wouldn’t even interview female pilots if they were pregnant. I would assume this would be the same for male pilots as well if their wife is expecting.

I would wait and interview with a company that values their employees!
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Old 01-17-2018 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Patternholder
In the past, I have heard that they wouldn’t even interview female pilots if they were pregnant. I would assume this would be the same for male pilots as well if their wife is expecting.

I would wait and interview with a company that values their employees!
This. When I was hired years ago it was a place that valued employees. Sometimes old habits surface. Go somewhere where this wouldn’t be an issue
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Old 01-17-2018 | 01:02 PM
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You have to notify the company months in advance that you’ll be taking FMLA, there is no specific “paternity leave.” And if you take FMLA you’ll find yourself zeroed out on sick days with all your vacation for the current year and following year depleted in the most inefficient means possible. For instance, if you take off 21 days using the FMLA, you lose 21 days of vacation and sick time unless you chose to be unpaid for any portion of that time. Instead most people use 7 days of vacation in two consecutive months and can find themselves with nearly 52 out of 60 days off over two months; all while only using 14 days of vacation. Maybe bang out sick for another couple 4-day trips and you have all 60 days off for 8 sick days and 14 vacation used in total.

In short, FMLA is garbage here, just like every other“perk” we have at Frontier. You always have to play the system at Frontier to get what most airlines give willingly to their pilots. And if you’re junior at Frontier, you’ll get to exercise zero of these contract perks.

Not a great idea to come to Frontier if you’re expecting.
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Old 01-17-2018 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DrJekyll MrHyde
You have to notify the company months in advance that you’ll be taking FMLA, there is no specific “paternity leave.” And if you take FMLA you’ll find yourself zeroed out on sick days with all your vacation for the current year and following year depleted in the most inefficient means possible. For instance, if you take off 21 days using the FMLA, you lose 21 days of vacation and sick time unless you chose to be unpaid for any portion of that time. Instead most people use 7 days of vacation in two consecutive months and can find themselves with nearly 52 out of 60 days off over two months; all while only using 14 days of vacation. Maybe bang out sick for another couple 4-day trips and you have all 60 days off for 8 sick days and 14 vacation used in total.

In short, FMLA is garbage here, just like every other“perk” we have at Frontier. You always have to play the system at Frontier to get what most airlines give willingly to their pilots.
I don’t think he’ll even qualify for FMLA. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe you need to be on property for 12 months.
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Old 01-17-2018 | 03:36 PM
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Unless you’re some rockstar pilot who has soooooo much more to give to this pilot group, mgmt will fire you for even asking.
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Old 01-17-2018 | 04:06 PM
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After reading today’s MEC NC update, don’t come here. Simple as that.
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Old 01-17-2018 | 05:49 PM
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I had my daughter 5 months after my hire date and had mentioned it in the interview. When she was born the current Chief and the old Chief made sure I had the time off I needed; they told me not to worry about it at all. I only dropped two trips but my experience was very positive. Just be yourself in the interview, hope this helps, best of luck in your career
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