Laughable Bravado
11-11-2018, 08:27 AM
#31
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Position: Lineholder
Posts: 1,360
Originally Posted by motorboatin
People need to unwad their collective panties. Sorry you feel offended, disrespected, slighted or whatever. All you chest pounding no-chanters are some fragile little souls. There are probably 10-12 pilots with the ability to give reasonable yes or no votes right now, because they’ve been intimately involved with the AIPs creation. Just hold your water until you read the language. MOST of the people I’ve talked to are holding judgement until they have full language to read. The 100 or so that spend all their time here and on the Facebook DO NOT even come close to representing the mentality of the whole. Thank god!!
Aside from that, do you really think there is a sizeable # of pilots who WONT read the AIP and vote because of what I write? Or you?
Cmon man...
11-11-2018, 08:27 AM
#32
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 550
Originally Posted by motorboatin
The 100 or so that spend all their time here and on the Facebook DO NOT even come close to representing the mentality of the whole. Thank god!!
Your feeble simple attempts at belittling others who have strong feelings about this in no way shadow the obvious irony in your automatic yes vote. Let me guess, you already have that tiny ratification bonus spent?
11-11-2018, 08:30 AM
#33
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 461
Originally Posted by PulledBreaker
Everyone I've talked to that has been here less than 5 years is a resounding no. It's the 12+ year guys who I've spoken to that think it's the best we will get and are yes votes.
Ironically, for the past 2 years all I've heard from the senior guys is their fear of junior guys voting in PBS at their expense. Oh how the tables have turned...
Ironically, for the past 2 years all I've heard from the senior guys is their fear of junior guys voting in PBS at their expense. Oh how the tables have turned...
No spin will change the above. We have the upper hand. A resounding message will be sent.
11-11-2018, 08:33 AM
#34
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 298
Originally Posted by motorboatin
People need to unwad their collective panties. Sorry you feel offended, disrespected, slighted or whatever. All you chest pounding no-chanters are some fragile little souls. There are probably 10-12 pilots with the ability to give reasonable yes or no votes right now, because they’ve been intimately involved with the AIPs creation. Just hold your water until you read the language. MOST of the people I’ve talked to are holding judgement until they have full language to read. The 100 or so that spend all their time here and on the Facebook DO NOT even come close to representing the mentality of the whole. Thank god!!
1000% READY TO STRIKE!!!
11-11-2018, 08:37 AM
#35
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 224
Originally Posted by I like BIG Bus
This doesn’t look good from the start to most of us. These bullet points are put out to get the buzz and excitement going over this deal, and it completely had the opposite effect. Going to the sales floor to get convinced it’s a good deal is unreasonable. If I looked at the brochure of a car and decided I didn’t want it, I certainly wouldn’t go to the dealership to find out from the salesman what a great car it would be for me. I keep looking. If I get a whiff of “Bad Air”, I don’t need to stick my face in the source to get a better smell of it. You call it what it is. And I know what this smells like. Go to the sales job, but you will see, there are good things in this, but the bad far outweigh anything in it. It needs to go back.
1000% READY TO STRIKE!!!
1000% READY TO STRIKE!!!
11-11-2018, 04:05 PM
#36
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Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 128
Originally Posted by V1 McFlyerson
This AIP is dead in the water. We're not Spirit and we're coming in post-Jetblue. The rates are atrocious, everything else is an insult too.
No spin will change the above. We have the upper hand. A resounding message will be sent.
No spin will change the above. We have the upper hand. A resounding message will be sent.
11-11-2018, 04:26 PM
#37
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 461
Originally Posted by Popeye0537
LOLOLOLOLOL, you're right, you are not even close to Spirit or JetBlue. Enjoy your new rates
11-11-2018, 04:27 PM
#38
Hold my beer, watch this.
Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: Airbus Pilot
Posts: 246
Originally Posted by PulledBreaker
Everyone I've talked to that has been here less than 5 years is a resounding no. It's the 12+ year guys who I've spoken to that think it's the best we will get and are yes votes.
Ironically, for the past 2 years all I've heard from the senior guys is their fear of junior guys voting in PBS at their expense. Oh how the tables have turned...
Ironically, for the past 2 years all I've heard from the senior guys is their fear of junior guys voting in PBS at their expense. Oh how the tables have turned...
11-11-2018, 04:30 PM
#39
Hold my beer, watch this.
Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: Airbus Pilot
Posts: 246
Originally Posted by motorboatin
People need to unwad their collective panties. Sorry you feel offended, disrespected, slighted or whatever. All you chest pounding no-chanters are some fragile little souls. There are probably 10-12 pilots with the ability to give reasonable yes or no votes right now, because they’ve been intimately involved with the AIPs creation. Just hold your water until you read the language. MOST of the people I’ve talked to are holding judgement until they have full language to read. The 100 or so that spend all their time here and on the Facebook DO NOT even come close to representing the mentality of the whole. Thank god!!
11-11-2018, 04:36 PM
#40
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Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 443
Originally Posted by wt93205
Exactly. Funny how all these 12 year plus guys are now ready to sellout. They don't understand the power we have nor how crappy the pay scales are for the rest of the group year 1-11. They don't care. It is all about them.
