Xdashdriver

In theory, but reserve drops are still subject to crew scheduling concurrence as it is now.

ReserveCA

I don’t think ANY amount of glitter will cover the “STANK” of this TA

V1 McFlyerson

Just like your username it is incredulously ironic that the union's campaign referenced anything to do with the pattern.

Xdashdriver

You are correct that PBS will prevent trip touching drops. You're also correct that the value of the vacation will decrease under PBS compared to current practice for many. Bear in mind that under our current book, the company has the option of increasing the frequency that pairings flying through your domicile, restricting how much credit you could drop through conflicts. Considering the industry average vacation day value with PBS is around 3.5 hours, our 5 hour day is a positive thing.

As far as PBS randomly filling in your schedule with pairings, that's not true unless you don't specify any preferences. PBS will attempt to honor your preferences as much as it possibly can. In other words, if you ask for days off around your vacation it will start by eliminating all pairings from consideration that operate on your requested days off. With what is left over in the pot, it will add flying to your schedule to get your credit to the bottom of the line construction window. If it can get there, you're done and it moves onto the next guy junior to you. If it can't get there, it will go into denial mode and start to deny your preferences in reverse order, trying to add flying at each step. At some point it will get enough flying on your schedule and then stop. The more senior you are, the more likely you are to get all your preferences honored. If it has denied all your preferences and still can't get you above the bottom of the line construction window, it's probably because you're not senior enough to hold a line anyway then it will put you on reserve.

If you end up with a trip on some days off that you wanted to include as a part of your vacation, then you'll still have the opentime pot to drop/swap with.

Windsor

Big negative that got no mention yesterday. The loss of positive phone contact as we now know it. The company having the ability to acars us now could potentially turn the entire company into de facto reserves. I know I’m going overboard but this company will exploit every and any loophole they can.
For example: lineholder on day 2 of 4 gets an acars to call crew scheduling when they land. Instead of their nice 24hr Orlando overnight, they get sent to Buffalo instead. I’m not go to get into pay in this example, but since we are all now contactable via acars and have to answer the phones after block in and before shows, the company can and will screw with line holders.
Example 2. A reserve has a 5 day block of reserve. On day one gets called out for a two day trip. Said pilot packs for a two day trip. 99.9 percent of the time on reserve now, you will do the two day trip and that’s it. Now under the new rules, on the last leg of day one, company sends an acars to call C.S. The reserve is now “re-routed” on day 2. Instead of going back to base, they added a 3 day trip. So said pilot that only packed for 2 days is now gone for 4-5 straight days. That rarely if ever happens now. I see that loophole getting exploited as well.

Patternholder

You didn’t answer my question!

Planedrive

I’m sorry but this should be an easy no vote for atleast 85% of the pilot group!

Mugatu

Or this example... You commute to Chicago the day before for a nice 4 day trip with a 5:00am report time on day 1. The company calls at 4:00 (one hour before report time per the TA) and says, “Good Morning, Captain Caveman! We are going to reassign you to a 10pm departure tonight ORD-LAS with a redeye to STL. You are released to rest until 9:15pm tonight followed by 2 more crappy days nobody wants to fly. Thank you!” In the meantime CS is fat on morning reserve pilots and assigns your trip to one of them and because they’re short evening reserve pilots, they give the redeye trip to you so they don’t have to pay 150%.

You don’t think Pat Ryan hasn’t already thought of these scenarios?

The reassignment on this TA ALONE makes this a big fat NO!

Biffsteritis

This is Pat Ryan’s wet dream come true!!

No Vote Solidified.
I don’t care how the union spins this!

Windsor

That is even more diabolical. As long as you are in your footprint, they can do whatever they want with you. There is no mechanism to refuse extensions either.
On day 4 of your trip you are scheduled to be done at 13:00. You have a very important event you want to be at that evening. On day 3 of the trip they reassign and extend you to a flight that gets you back at 23:45. You’ll make a few extra schmeckles, but miss the important event because you cannot refuse the extension.