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bonvoyage 02-10-2022 12:19 PM

Potential new hire questions
 
Hello everyone. I have a few questions about F9 that I’m wondering if anyone could answer.

1) is a hotel provided for training, as well as min guarantee pay?
2) what is the average age of the pilot group?
3) I have heard F9 was doing a lot of day trips, will that hold true after the merger? Is there any info on that. I’ll be a commuter so I do NOT want many day trips
4) anything else I should know or be aware of before accepting a class date? I understand this is subjective, but I know little about the company as of now. Is it somewhere you’d recommend for someone who has 35+ years left to fly?
5) also how many retirements does F9 anticipate over the next decade?

Stayontarget 02-10-2022 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by bonvoyage (Post 3370247)
Hello everyone. I have a few questions about F9 that I’m wondering if anyone could answer.

1) is a hotel provided for training, as well as min guarantee pay?
2) what is the average age of the pilot group?
3) I have heard F9 was doing a lot of day trips, will that hold true after the merger? Is there any info on that. I’ll be a commuter so I do NOT want many day trips
4) anything else I should know or be aware of before accepting a class date? I understand this is subjective, but I know little about the company as of now. Is it somewhere you’d recommend for someone who has 35+ years left to fly?
5) also how many retirements does F9 anticipate over the next decade?


1) No/Yes 75 hour guarantee

2/5) Young…I don’t have specifics. Not much. Our seniority growth depends almost exclusively on airline growth and attrition which just probably slowed down.

3) It’s true. It’s base dependent and a quick scan through the threads has it laid out per base. My thought for you is plan for the worst and hope for the best in that regard.

4)There is a lot in the air and nothing is guaranteed but the future got extremely bright this week. We just don’t exactly know what that will look like.

bonvoyage 02-10-2022 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 3370265)
1) No/Yes 75 hour guarantee

2/5) Young…I don’t have specifics. Not much. Our seniority growth depends almost exclusively on airline growth and attrition which just probably slowed down.

3) It’s true. It’s base dependent and a quick scan through the threads has it laid out per base. My thought for you is plan for the worst and hope for the best in that regard.

4)There is a lot in the air and nothing is guaranteed but the future got extremely bright this week. We just don’t exactly know what that will look like.

Thanks for the reply and all of the info!

CH1203 02-10-2022 05:33 PM

Is there any information about an upcoming Meet the Chiefs event in Orlando? I remember seeing something about it and a buddy of mine was asking for info.

buzzer 02-11-2022 03:25 AM

What does the current timing footprint look like for Training? If you start say on April 1st, how long till you are done and can you bid a monthly schedule (during training) for the period of time after your training ends?

JoeFever1 02-11-2022 03:34 AM


Originally Posted by buzzer (Post 3370494)
What does the current timing footprint look like for Training? If you start say on April 1st, how long till you are done and can you bid a monthly schedule (during training) for the period of time after your training ends?

You’d take your check ride end of May. Weekends off, and possibly longer breaks during sims, depending on that specific schedule. Now after that there’s no telling with OE schedules.

el_duderino 02-11-2022 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by JoeFever1 (Post 3370497)
You’d take your check ride end of May. Weekends off, and possibly longer breaks during sims, depending on that specific schedule. Now after that there’s no telling with OE schedules.

Besides the obvious of study being a priority, would it be worth the effort to bring snow sport equipment to training? Is there a reasonable chance of getting a day or two to hit a mountain? Also, what are the chances of getting MIA sims, is that a rare occurrence, or something frequent? And on that note, ballpark of when during the 2 months of training is the sim portion?

PositiveRate20 02-11-2022 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by el_duderino (Post 3370559)
Besides the obvious of study being a priority, would it be worth the effort to bring snow sport equipment to training? Is there a reasonable chance of getting a day or two to hit a mountain? Also, what are the chances of getting MIA sims, is that a rare occurrence, or something frequent? And on that note, ballpark of when during the 2 months of training is the sim portion?

You'll have a couple days off here and there...usually weekends. There's usually a decent gap between the oral exam and sims as well.....4-5 days depending on the schedule you get. MIA sims aren't common and usually go senior as they cover hotel/travel costs, unlike the Denver sims. You and your sim partner will bid for sim schedules early in the training footprint. The most senior of the 2 of you (age based) will bid and that's how sim schedules are awarded in the training classes.

Schedule off the top of my head: About 3.5 weeks of ground school followed by 6 FTD’s, oral exam, 8 sims, checkride, loft. Total time probably averages about 8 weeks as you will bid on different sim schedules with different exam dates. (disclaimer: this very well may have changed since last year but I expect its somewhat the same)

TOGALOCK 02-11-2022 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by el_duderino (Post 3370559)
Besides the obvious of study being a priority, would it be worth the effort to bring snow sport equipment to training? Is there a reasonable chance of getting a day or two to hit a mountain? Also, what are the chances of getting MIA sims, is that a rare occurrence, or something frequent? And on that note, ballpark of when during the 2 months of training is the sim portion?

You’ll have weekends off in ground school and days off during sim. You’ll definitely want to take some time for yourself to unwind and mentally decompress. 24/7 cramming never usually turns out well. So, if snow sports is your jam, go for it.

MIA sims are usually offered in limited numbers and bid for when you bid your sim schedule. The most senior to bid it will get it. It’s just me, but be mindful of where others in you class live. I had a junior person in my class who lived in MIA with a newborn at home. Despite making it known to people that he really wanted MIA due to his situation, he was outbid by a couple of senior people who wanted “a vacation and per diem”. I always though that was a pretty crummy and selfish move, but I guess seniority is seniority.

el_duderino 02-11-2022 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by PositiveRate20 (Post 3370566)
You'll have a couple days off here and there...usually weekends. There's usually a decent gap between the oral exam and sims as well.....4-5 days depending on the schedule you get. MIA sims aren't common and usually go senior as they cover hotel/travel costs, unlike the Denver sims. You and your sim partner will bid for sim schedules early in the training footprint. The most senior of the 2 of you (age based) will bid and that's how sim schedules are awarded in the training classes.

Schedule off the top of my head: About 3.5 weeks of ground school followed by 6 FTD’s, oral exam, 8 sims, checkride, loft. Total time probably averages about 8 weeks as you will bid on different sim schedules with different exam dates. (disclaimer: this very well may have changed since last year but I expect its somewhat the same)


Originally Posted by TOGALOCK (Post 3370569)
You’ll have weekends off in ground school and days off during sim. You’ll definitely want to take some time for yourself to unwind and mentally decompress. 24/7 cramming never usually turns out well. So, if snow sports is your jam, go for it.

MIA sims are usually offered in limited numbers and bid for when you bid your sim schedule. The most senior to bid it will get it. It’s just me, but be mindful of where others in you class live. I had a junior person in my class who lived in MIA with a newborn at home. Despite making it known to people that he really wanted MIA due to his situation, he was outbid by a couple of senior people who wanted “a vacation and per diem”. I always though that was a pretty crummy and selfish move, but I guess seniority is seniority.

Awesome, thanks for the quick replies and info, I appreciate it.


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