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Old 03-12-2023, 11:02 PM
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What are guys doing for food? I am starting class soon and they have us at the Courtyard. Is breakfast available?
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Old 03-13-2023, 06:39 AM
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No AQP, but still not bad at all. Pretty enjoyable honestly.
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Old 03-13-2023, 10:34 AM
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What are guys doing for food? I am starting class soon and they have us at the Courtyard. Is breakfast available?
If you can get a ride, or Uber, there’s Costco and Walmart and King Soopers (local brand of Kroger) in a nearby radius. I got delivery from the latter grocery store. $35 minimum in the cart, plus $10 instacart fee. Since the fridge wasn’t very large and limited space to store/prep non-refrigerated food. So I’d do a weekly order of things. I’m not really a breakfast person so I skipped that anyway. The HQ and the Airbus facility have one of those unmanned kiosks with a small assortment of “fresh” foods. Salad, wraps, sandwiches. Not replenished daily, so that’s the only caveat to that option.
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Old 03-13-2023, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by spooldup View Post
No AQP, but still not bad at all. Pretty enjoyable honestly.
Training, much like most other areas of the flying operation (to include safety) relies VERY HEAVILY on just having good people doing the work. I have yet to encounter a bad instructor/LCA - they are all top notch. I'm not particularly a fan of some of the curriculum that is being taught but the method of instruction and knowledge of the instructors is very good.

As to curriculum (and the loss of AQP a while back) speaks to what is evidently wrong throughout the company - leadership/management (or the lack thereof). Too much nepotism, too little resources and too little pay - esp for the LCAs and chief pilots.

If I were another airline (major), I would hire almost exclusively from ULCCs as the candidates are generally younger, have shown the ability to successfully negotiate a major 121 training program, but most important, weaken a company who's real only claim to fame would be growth...
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Old 03-14-2023, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dracir1 View Post
Training, much like most other areas of the flying operation (to include safety) relies VERY HEAVILY on just having good people doing the work. I have yet to encounter a bad instructor/LCA - they are all top notch. I'm not particularly a fan of some of the curriculum that is being taught but the method of instruction and knowledge of the instructors is very good.

As to curriculum (and the loss of AQP a while back) speaks to what is evidently wrong throughout the company - leadership/management (or the lack thereof). Too much nepotism, too little resources and too little pay - esp for the LCAs and chief pilots.

If I were another airline (major), I would hire almost exclusively from ULCCs as the candidates are generally younger, have shown the ability to successfully negotiate a major 121 training program, but most important, weaken a company who's real only claim to fame would be growth...
that is exactly whats happening also... Go to Frontier to leave for United or SWA, enjoy DEN in a couple months, and have a bigger backed company behind you. Pretty sure 15 or so people from my class of 45 are already gone, makes me feel like I am missing out or something, but I am enjoying my seniority going up.
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Old 03-14-2023, 07:03 AM
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Losing 1.1 pilots a day still for ‘23?
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Old 03-14-2023, 07:09 AM
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At what point in training will I know what base I will get?
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Old 03-14-2023, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by dracir1 View Post
Training, much like most other areas of the flying operation (to include safety) relies VERY HEAVILY on just having good people doing the work. I have yet to encounter a bad instructor/LCA - they are all top notch. I'm not particularly a fan of some of the curriculum that is being taught but the method of instruction and knowledge of the instructors is very good.

As to curriculum (and the loss of AQP a while back) speaks to what is evidently wrong throughout the company - leadership/management (or the lack thereof). Too much nepotism, too little resources and too little pay - esp for the LCAs and chief pilots.

If I were another airline (major), I would hire almost exclusively from ULCCs as the candidates are generally younger, have shown the ability to successfully negotiate a major 121 training program, but most important, weaken a company who's real only claim to fame would be growth...
I don't disagree with most of what you're saying, but in point of fact - F9 has never had AQP. I know they were planning to do it but backed away from it a couple of years ago.

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Old 03-14-2023, 07:15 AM
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Losing 1.1 pilots a day still for ‘23?
So far yes. Last month was brutal and I counted 47 said adios. By far the worst month I’ve seen.
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Old 03-14-2023, 07:31 AM
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At what point in training will I know what base I will get?
Depends. Usually you will get your base around week 2-3 or so.
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