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Stayontarget 02-21-2026 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by Nemack (Post 4005777)

What did you find interesting? I listened once when it was live and then a second time a few days later. I was underwhelmed and I’m a union cheerleader.

fcoolaiddrinker 02-21-2026 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 4005779)
What did you find interesting? I listened once when it was live and then a second time a few days later. I was underwhelmed and I’m a union cheerleader.

I agree unfortunately. I find it incredibly hard to believe JD is going to start doing anything other than stall/delay or agree to anything of any real value any time soon.

spooldup 02-22-2026 03:53 AM

If our union is saying something, then we should listen. We are not talking to JD. They are. The fact that he even reached out to them at all is huge compared to BB.

Could it be the same? yeah. But we don't know that yet. For now, our union is saying that it is different and that they are going to let us know just how different after our March session.

I for one, am happy to hear what has been said about JD so far, even AL, both have been a breath of fresh air compared to their previous counterparts.

With all this said, we will see what happens and if it truly turns is different, or the same.

BusDriver2000 02-22-2026 04:12 AM


Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 4005797)
If our union is saying something, then we should listen. We are not talking to JD. They are. The fact that he even reached out to them at all is huge compared to BB.

Could it be the same? yeah. But we don't know that yet. For now, our union is saying that it is different and that they are going to let us know just how different after our March session.

I for one, am happy to hear what has been said about JD so far, even AL, both have been a breath of fresh air compared to their previous counterparts.

With all this said, we will see what happens and if it truly turns is different, or the same.

What exactly was the breath of fresh air? Was it them not forecasting a contract in 2026 that would impact its yearly outlook? Maybe it’s AL telling ground schools there base is not doing well and it’s likely to close if we end up re aligning bases in 27’

WingKong 03-03-2026 08:12 AM

Hearing that the planned pause in classes is off, due to attrition I guess. Has anyone received a March or April class date?

cfiflyguy77 03-03-2026 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by WingKong (Post 4008642)
Hearing that the planned pause in classes is off, due to attrition I guess. Has anyone received a March or April class date?

Don't they still have to do upgrades?

Stayontarget 03-03-2026 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by WingKong (Post 4008642)
Hearing that the planned pause in classes is off, due to attrition I guess. Has anyone received a March or April class date?

I heard it was only temporary to begin with. Attrition hit over 40 in Feb.

WingKong 03-03-2026 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 4008651)
I heard it was only temporary to begin with. Attrition hit over 40 in Feb.

Yes it was meant to be a temporary pause until late April, but hearing that they need to get classes going again as attrition has spiked.

WingKong 03-03-2026 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by cfiflyguy77 (Post 4008647)
Don't they still have to do upgrades?

Yes they do, a lot of places needing to be back filled across a few of the bases. Also pretty high failure rates with the new upgrade program, so probably down on the numbers they were expecting to have.

dracir1 03-03-2026 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by WingKong (Post 4008696)
Yes they do, a lot of places needing to be back filled across a few of the bases. Also pretty high failure rates with the new upgrade program, so probably down on the numbers they were expecting to have.

There is an April 6 class of about 25.

Where are the "official" upgrade failure rate #s?


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