FAs reach a TA with F9
03-22-2019, 12:34 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by sdsunick1
You guys are this concerned about a few cents of per diem? I bet you can’t even tell me what the last two digits (after the .) are at your current pay rate without having to look it up. We’ve got people who seriously don’t even know how to check their 401k or HSA accounts to verify the company is sending over the correct amounts each check, and we are worried about .10 cents more of per diem?
03-22-2019, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sdsunick1
You guys are this concerned about a few cents of per diem? I bet you can’t even tell me what the last two digits (after the .) are at your current pay rate without having to look it up. We’ve got people who seriously don’t even know how to check their 401k or HSA accounts to verify the company is sending over the correct amounts each check, and we are worried about .10 cents more of per diem?
I think whoever said that originally was simply stating the fact that a little boost in per diem would be nice, a long with all all other raises we are getting. No need assume so many negative things.
03-22-2019, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sdsunick1
You guys are this concerned about a few cents of per diem? I bet you can’t even tell me what the last two digits (after the .) are at your current pay rate without having to look it up. We’ve got people who seriously don’t even know how to check their 401k or HSA accounts to verify the company is sending over the correct amounts each check, and we are worried about .10 cents more of per diem?
It’s .68
Still missing $30 on the front side .....
03-23-2019, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sdsunick1
You guys are this concerned about a few cents of per diem?
03-24-2019, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingR6
Since the new tax law says we cant write off any employment related expenses, including the per diem on a per city basis, I am concerned about a few cents of per diem. That's money we cant recoup any more, so every little bit does matter.
03-24-2019, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sdsunick1
On a trip that has 72 hours TAFB, a .10 increase equals $7.20. All I’m saying is most guys don’t even know what the right side of the decimal of their pay rate is and you’re worring about $7.20 over a 4 day trip. If you compare that 7.20 to what you’ll make over a 4 day at your pay rate, it’s really peanuts.
03-24-2019, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sdsunick1
On a trip that has 72 hours TAFB, a .10 increase equals $7.20. All I’m saying is most guys don’t even know what the right side of the decimal of their pay rate is and you’re worring about $7.20 over a 4 day trip. If you compare that 7.20 to what you’ll make over a 4 day at your pay rate, it’s really peanuts.
I'm sure someone will respond with negotiating capital or whatever. It done and over with so this is what we work with.
03-24-2019, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingR6
I'm sure someone will respond with negotiating capital or whatever. It done and over with so this is what we work with.
As a “no” voter, it’s over. Let’s help each other move on and make the best of our current situation. If you aren’t studying the old contract v. the new contract and scheming how you can either:
A) Maximize your pay check, or
B) Maximize your time at home
You aren’t trying hard enough.
03-24-2019, 02:00 PM
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Where is anyone coming up with .10 an hour less in per diem? Considering AA,AK,B6,DL,FX,NK,SWA,UA, and UPS Frontier pilots are earning .34 less an hour than the average. At 4-4 day trips a month it equates to hundreds of thousands of dollars when invested monthly over a 30-year career.
Obviously one uses their per diem to cover expenses and therefore wouldn't be investing all of it, but it's all money-in / money-out and it's not an insignificant amount of money although it might appear that way on the surface.
Plus, it's an extreme outlier for a new contract. There's at least one regional that pays more per diem than F9. It's so far outside of the realm of reasonableness that it NEVER should've been agreed to.
Obviously one uses their per diem to cover expenses and therefore wouldn't be investing all of it, but it's all money-in / money-out and it's not an insignificant amount of money although it might appear that way on the surface.
Plus, it's an extreme outlier for a new contract. There's at least one regional that pays more per diem than F9. It's so far outside of the realm of reasonableness that it NEVER should've been agreed to.
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