Notices

The Future is Day Turns

Old 01-12-2021, 08:14 AM
  #21  
Gets Weekends Off
 
TOGALOCK's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 997
Default

Originally Posted by SeaRider View Post
Maybe you’re not into the D, but a green slip is a green slip.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
A green slip, eh? Sounds like something old and moldy. Now, a pink slip... Now that sounds like something desirable!
TOGALOCK is online now  
Old 01-12-2021, 08:25 AM
  #22  
Gets Weekends Off
 
TOGALOCK's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 997
Default

Originally Posted by Margaritaville View Post
None. The only multi day trips we have are a very occasional overnight charter, and reserves getting shagged around the country. Less than 1%. Most of the charters are even long multi leg 1 day trips. 99.9% of the trips in the bid package are day trips. We also have 20 bases. I can list them if anyone cares.
Got it. Thanks. The ability for an airline to overnight it’s entire fleet within their bases only is an interesting logistic. But, having as many bases as you guys have would make it significantly easier.
TOGALOCK is online now  
Old 01-12-2021, 08:35 AM
  #23  
It's 5 o'clock somewhere
 
Margaritaville's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2020
Posts: 1,837
Default

Originally Posted by TOGALOCK View Post
Got it. Thanks. The ability for an airline to overnight it’s entire fleet within their bases only is an interesting logistic. But, having as many bases as you guys have would make it significantly easier.
Yeah. I'm curious how Frontier would convert the airline to a day trip system. They would have to open a bunch of new small bases and make people move. That's going to take some time. Unless they plan to merge with Allegiant.
Margaritaville is offline  
Old 01-12-2021, 09:47 AM
  #24  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 663
Default

Originally Posted by Margaritaville View Post
Yeah. I'm curious how Frontier would convert the airline to a day trip system. They would have to open a bunch of new small bases and make people move. That's going to take some time. Unless they plan to merge with Allegiant.
You sure are beating the merger drum loudly. We aren’t supposed to tell you, but in F9 ground school they’ve been telling us Allegiant is being spun-off. Your management would rather build resorts and name grass inside empty stadiums. Don’t shoot the messenger but ALPA merger policy will not apply...we will let you keep the stapler when we are done.

In all seriousness though, imitation is a form of flattery so you guys must be doing something right.
Powderkeg is offline  
Old 01-12-2021, 10:34 AM
  #25  
Gets Weekends Off
 
TOGALOCK's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 997
Default

Originally Posted by Powderkeg View Post
We aren’t supposed to tell you, but in F9 ground school they’ve been telling us Allegiant is being spun-off..
Oh man, now you did it. You talked and put a target on your back to get Jimmy Hoffa’d by management. Legend has it, the foundation of the crystal palace is filled with those who knew too much.
TOGALOCK is online now  
Old 01-12-2021, 12:04 PM
  #26  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2012
Posts: 548
Default

Are red-eye turns legal in the F9 contract? That would be the only way to make day schedules work. Sitting all night in base (like the Allegiant planes usually do) doesn't pay the bills for brand new planes.
9easy is offline  
Old 01-12-2021, 12:13 PM
  #27  
Gets Weekends Off
 
TOGALOCK's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 997
Default

Originally Posted by 9easy View Post
Are red-eye turns legal in the F9 contract?
Oh yes. Not just quick hops either. For example, the February ORD bid pack has some ORD-LAS and ORD-PHX redeye turns in it.
TOGALOCK is online now  
Old 01-12-2021, 12:25 PM
  #28  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,078
Default

Originally Posted by TOGALOCK View Post
Oh yes. Not just quick hops either. For example, the February ORD bid pack has some ORD-LAS and ORD-PHX redeye turns in it.
the first leg on those does not meet the contractual definition of a redeye. I’m Not saying thier easy but the only thing you can do after a contractually defined redeye leg is rest.
fcoolaiddrinker is offline  
Old 01-12-2021, 12:39 PM
  #29  
Gets Weekends Off
 
TOGALOCK's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 997
Default

Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker View Post
the first leg on those does not meet the contractual definition of a redeye. I’m Not saying thier easy but the only thing you can do after a contractually defined redeye leg is rest.
I stand corrected!
TOGALOCK is online now  
Old 01-12-2021, 12:41 PM
  #30  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,078
Default

There’s also a shorter duty than 117 and a rdp protection but can’t remember the numbers. I’m really not looking to correct people just put the info out there so pilots don’t accept contractually illegal assignments. It killed us last contract.

Last edited by fcoolaiddrinker; 01-12-2021 at 12:51 PM.
fcoolaiddrinker is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
SpaceManX
ExpressJet
32
03-18-2019 05:02 AM
fanaticalflyer
United
16
10-18-2015 09:18 PM
3stripes
Regional
29
02-22-2014 08:01 PM
Canyonman
Hangar Talk
8
02-27-2013 10:46 AM
meloveboeing
Regional
5
10-02-2010 07:47 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices