Base seniority/progression info
04-30-2022 | 05:57 AM
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Brickhut covered part deux
04-30-2022 | 10:53 AM
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From: Aircraft & Seat: old & hard
05-01-2022 | 10:01 PM
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Red-eye back to ding-dongville…reading comprehension. He was asking about LAS and commuting from SAN, specifically.
I guess you could add PHL, CVG, DTW, CLE, CLT, etc..etc.., but, then, you wouldn’t be based in LAS now, would ya?
I guess you could add PHL, CVG, DTW, CLE, CLT, etc..etc.., but, then, you wouldn’t be based in LAS now, would ya?
05-04-2022 | 04:39 PM
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Worse than the 15-18 I assumed but better than the 30 a month the Union quoted. This is a very small sample size though and subject to change of course. Pilot attrition is still a problem. I assume we agree on that.
05-05-2022 | 08:27 AM
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I waited until today specifically to respond to this. When the April class was added to Flica we had 1733 on the seniority list. We got down to 1710 until today when the newest class was added. We are now at 1753. So the semi official tally for pilots leaving was 23 in April.
Worse than the 15-18 I assumed but better than the 30 a month the Union quoted. This is a very small sample size though and subject to change of course. Pilot attrition is still a problem. I assume we agree on that.
Worse than the 15-18 I assumed but better than the 30 a month the Union quoted. This is a very small sample size though and subject to change of course. Pilot attrition is still a problem. I assume we agree on that.
Seniority List (As of May 1, 2022)
Date - Pilots (-/+ Loss/Gain)
05/01/2021-1573
06/01/2021-1568 (-5)
07/01/2021-1593 (+25)
08/01/2021-1620 (+27)
09/01/2021-1639 (+19)
10/01/2021-1668 (+29)
11/01/2021-1684 (+16)
12/01/2021-1694 (+10)
01/01/2022-1708 (+14)
02/03/2022-1718 (+10)
03/01/2022-1721 (+3) (80 LOA’s / 10 Management)
04/01/2022-1748 (+27) (80 LOA’s / 10 Management)
05/05/2022-1765 (+17) (93 LOA’s / 10 Management)
In 1 year, we have netted approximately 192 pilots
(Net 150 pilots or an average of 16 pilots a month)
05-05-2022 | 08:33 AM
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I agree with this information. I have been keeping track since last year.
Seniority List (As of May 1, 2022)
Date - Pilots (-/+ Loss/Gain)
05/01/2021-1573
06/01/2021-1568 (-5)
07/01/2021-1593 (+25)
08/01/2021-1620 (+27)
09/01/2021-1639 (+19)
10/01/2021-1668 (+29)
11/01/2021-1684 (+16)
12/01/2021-1694 (+10)
01/01/2022-1708 (+14)
02/03/2022-1718 (+10)
03/01/2022-1721 (+3) (80 LOA’s / 10 Management)
04/01/2022-1748 (+27) (80 LOA’s / 10 Management)
05/05/2022-1765 (+17) (93 LOA’s / 10 Management)
In 1 year, we have netted approximately 192 pilots
(Net 150 pilots or an average of 16 pilots a month)
Seniority List (As of May 1, 2022)
Date - Pilots (-/+ Loss/Gain)
05/01/2021-1573
06/01/2021-1568 (-5)
07/01/2021-1593 (+25)
08/01/2021-1620 (+27)
09/01/2021-1639 (+19)
10/01/2021-1668 (+29)
11/01/2021-1684 (+16)
12/01/2021-1694 (+10)
01/01/2022-1708 (+14)
02/03/2022-1718 (+10)
03/01/2022-1721 (+3) (80 LOA’s / 10 Management)
04/01/2022-1748 (+27) (80 LOA’s / 10 Management)
05/05/2022-1765 (+17) (93 LOA’s / 10 Management)
In 1 year, we have netted approximately 192 pilots
(Net 150 pilots or an average of 16 pilots a month)
05-05-2022 | 12:09 PM
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I still don’t know what to make of these numbers. I try to look at it from a pilot perspective as well as a company perspective. On one hand we are more or less keeping enough pilots for current growth. On the other hand we are going to need to increase that number as growth increases, and I’m not sure they can do it if things remain the same.
My other question is how much does this rate of churn cost the company in hiring, training, etc. Why not use that energy and money to work on our culture and put more money in the pockets of current and continuing Frontier pilots? I know the easy answer is Franke/BB…but making money and increasing the stock value is the most important thing, and they are failing miserably at that. Something has to give…
My other question is how much does this rate of churn cost the company in hiring, training, etc. Why not use that energy and money to work on our culture and put more money in the pockets of current and continuing Frontier pilots? I know the easy answer is Franke/BB…but making money and increasing the stock value is the most important thing, and they are failing miserably at that. Something has to give…
05-05-2022 | 01:09 PM
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I still don’t know what to make of these numbers. I try to look at it from a pilot perspective as well as a company perspective. On one hand we are more or less keeping enough pilots for current growth. On the other hand we are going to need to increase that number as growth increases, and I’m not sure they can do it if things remain the same.
My other question is how much does this rate of churn cost the company in hiring, training, etc. Why not use that energy and money to work on our culture and put more money in the pockets of current and continuing Frontier pilots? I know the easy answer is Franke/BB…but making money and increasing the stock value is the most important thing, and they are failing miserably at that. Something has to give…
My other question is how much does this rate of churn cost the company in hiring, training, etc. Why not use that energy and money to work on our culture and put more money in the pockets of current and continuing Frontier pilots? I know the easy answer is Franke/BB…but making money and increasing the stock value is the most important thing, and they are failing miserably at that. Something has to give…
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