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MCDUie 05-13-2022 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3421900)
Then don’t bid those.


What I was trying to say:
Those are okay for reserves, and suck for junior line holders. But if you go to min calendar day, the wil be split it up some other way. No way they will pay you 3 days for working 8 hours and 32 hrs TAFB.

As a fairly junior Capt they’re impossible to avoid. But always appreciate the “Then don’t bid them” comments. No sh$t! Tell us more life coach. Don’t like reserve? Don’t fix the language just don’t bid it. Don’t like our LTD just don’t get disabled 🙄

Let the company split them up. It just means flying an actual schedule that ends with a redeye instead of dedicated redeye trips that don’t pay anything.

dracir1 05-13-2022 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 3421894)
LOL, these look like goals for a regional contact after United's AIP. We have some work to do to even get close.

United New TA:

20% pay raise over the next
three years, no cost medical,
19% direct contribution,
positive space commuting, and
airport standby eliminated.
Since we will be the first to the
table with a new contract, a 5%
me too clause over the average
of DAL and AA hourly rate.

Rumor mill I think.

ReserveCA 05-13-2022 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3421900)
Then don’t bid those.


What I was trying to say:
Those are okay for reserves, and suck for junior line holders. But if you go to min calendar day, the wil be split it up some other way. No way they will pay you 3 days for working 8 hours and 32 hrs TAFB.

good let them be split another way
MIN Calendar day!!!
AND red eye override

emersonbiguns 05-13-2022 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 3421888)
So naturally I said not paying for snacks, stripes on ties for everybody, and getting the new binders covered by company for my collectible animal trading cards.

Amateur. I'm demanding a pony for everyone!

ExecNav 05-13-2022 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by emersonbiguns (Post 3422018)
Amateur. I'm demanding a pony for everyone!

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Avgeek7248 05-13-2022 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by dracir1 (Post 3421949)
United New TA:

20% pay raise over the next
three years, no cost medical,
19% direct contribution,
positive space commuting, and
airport standby eliminated.
Since we will be the first to the
table with a new contract, a 5%
me too clause over the average
of DAL and AA hourly rate.

Rumor mill I think.

pretty impressive increases overall. Positive space commuting and no medical is huge IMO. If this is accurate it’s great for the industry.

JulesWinfield 05-13-2022 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 3421894)
LOL, these look like goals for a regional contact after United's AIP. We have some work to do to even get close.

Imagine getting to use your sick time, haha. We have LTD at spirit, but work offsets it, you lose 401k contributions on it, and your healthcare expires after 5? Years. It’s Swiss cheese.

Planedrive 05-13-2022 06:01 PM

Pay increase in line with UAL new rates

LTD
5 hour min day
15 days off for reserves
200% premium X/Y list
Red eye override
Redeye turns should pay 150%
Positive space commuting
move up vacation and add a 5th week at year 12
321 override

Change the definition of “sick day” to personal day.

Keep 125% over 82

MCDUie 05-13-2022 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Planedrive (Post 3422190)
Pay increase in line with UAL new rates

LTD
5 hour min day
15 days off for reserves
200% premium X/Y list
Red eye override
Redeye turns should pay 150%
Positive space commuting
move up vacation and add a 5th week at year 12
321 override

Change the definition of “sick day” to personal day.

Keep 125% over 82

Tall order but I like it

symbian simian 05-13-2022 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by MCDUie (Post 3421933)
As a fairly junior Capt they’re impossible to avoid. But always appreciate the “Then don’t bid them” comments. No sh$t! Tell us more life coach. Don’t like reserve? Don’t fix the language just don’t bid it. Don’t like our LTD just don’t get disabled 🙄

Let the company split them up. It just means flying an actual schedule that ends with a redeye instead of dedicated redeye trips that don’t pay anything.

Guess doubling down???

I would rather have a "3" day trip that starts at 11pm and finishes at 8am with 32 hours TAFB, than a 15hr credit trip that starts at 7am and ends at 10pm. Because I would rather get 10 of pay to be away from my family for 1 day, than 15 hours pay to be away for 3. But to each their own.


I mean, you can just be a senior FO....


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