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Originally Posted by symbian simian
(Post 3422735)
And I would rather have commutable trips, so aiming for something that benefits all (better rigs & pay) is better than something that hurts half of us (daily pay). You keep calling it a three day, so you would be totally happy with a 2 day check-in 10 minutes pay midnight, red-eye to the east coast. Long sit, back early afternoon. Pays 10 hours, same TAFB as those horrible 3 days, and same 10 hour pay. They optimize trips to minimize crew pay.
That’s exactly the problem with min calendar day. The problem with the 3 day min duty average of 5 for 10 credit is it tends to create 12 day off lines rather quickly. |
Originally Posted by symbian simian
(Post 3422735)
And I would rather have commutable trips, so aiming for something that benefits all (better rigs & pay) is better than something that hurts half of us (daily pay). You keep calling it a three day, so you would be totally happy with a 2 day check-in 10 minutes pay midnight, red-eye to the east coast. Long sit, back early afternoon. Pays 10 hours, same TAFB as those horrible 3 days, and same 10 hour pay. They optimize trips to minimize crew pay.
There are plenty of ways to make commutable 3 and 4 day trips with a min day, we had them at my last airline. If it’s commutable trips that you’re looking for, you should be asking ALPA to put pressure on the company to move away from the day line model that they’re pursuing. I doubt there’s much they can do about it but that’s the bigger issue in my opinion. |
Originally Posted by symbian simian
(Post 3422233)
Guess doubling down???
I mean, you can just be a senior FO.... |
Originally Posted by madmax757
(Post 3422935)
That is true . I’m actually thinking of going back to the right seat in my base for QOL. I just flew with a senior.FO and he has it pretty good.
I’m in the top 10% in base and generally get what I want; certainly much more time off than a jnr CA; and more money; but that’s true at any airline..I’m planning on the first upgrade nonetheless; it’s just a better job in the left seat. Who would t want their first choice of crew meals every day? Oh.. wait… |
No you can bid FO voluntarily provided you’ve been a CA for more than 2 years.
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Are these TA ideas you guys are talking about coming in 2032?
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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
(Post 3423155)
No you can bid FO voluntarily provided you’ve been a CA for more than 2 years.
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
(Post 3423293)
So i definitely don't know better, and have been trying to find that. Where does it say 2 years?
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
(Post 3422233)
Guess doubling down???
I would rather have a "3" day trip that starts at 11pm and finishes at 8am with 32 hours TAFB, than a 15hr credit trip that starts at 7am and ends at 10pm. Because I would rather get 10 of pay to be away from my family for 1 day, than 15 hours pay to be away for 3. But to each their own. I mean, you can just be a senior FO.... The 12 hours before your 11pm show are supposed to be for crew rest of which 8 are supposed to be for sleep. I’m not so naive to believe that’s what people are actually doing but the day of that trip is limited in what you can do you and should probably include at least an attempt at a few hours nap. And landing at 7-8am a whole 32 hours later will be followed by another nap if not 8 hours of sleep after dragging yourself home. If you’re a commuter, add 4 hours on each side of that… If you consider that quality time with your family, then so be it. Id much rather have the extra 5 hours of credit. Two of those 7am - 11pm 2 days = 3 of your 11pm/redeye, 28hr layover and another redeye (1) day. 5 hours credit is $1100 mid level CA pay |
I’m hearing that the ALPA reps during their informational meetings are managing expectations about gains made in a JCBA. I hope we are looking at something better than status quo.
If I were a NK pilot, I would be praying for the success of JB’s bid. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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