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Old 05-13-2022, 06:13 AM
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Has anything changed since last survey round?

Scope
LTD
Work rules
Pay
Hotel

Are there any changes in priority or order? What else?
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Old 05-13-2022, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by doz4dllrs View Post
Has anything changed since last survey round?

Scope
LTD
Work rules
Pay
Hotel

Are there any changes in priority or order? What else?
it helps to be a little more specific. If they call me.

scope-im not sure thereís a problem with current book? If there is can you point it out?

LTD- 5 items, dc contributions, company paid insurance premiums, outside w2 doesnít count against the benefit, own occupation, increase the amount keeping in mind your not getting over 60% of w2. Ours is based on guarantee nk has a 12 month w2 look back I believe? The problem with look back is if you upgraded in the past 12 months.

Work rules- redeye override, some sort of nk x/y system for premium. A fix for the 3 day 10 hr credit trips.

Pay- fix the slope and a higher dos % increases going forward. 3% doesnít work for at least the first few years. Sun country got 6% year 3 I believe.

hotel-language is actually pretty good but this needs to be fought through hotel complaint forms. Any suggestions on language others have?
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Old 05-13-2022, 07:26 AM
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I'd like to see some improved:

- LTD language

- Sick time usage protection/PTO or something that allows us to use paid time off/ sick without fear of discipline. Or maybe able to sell sick time back? I don't know

-16+ % DC fund

- No increase in health care costs

- No vacation concessions of any sort and hopefully gain a 5th week at 15 years of service

I wonder what the survey questions will even be?
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Good things above like the LTD and pay slope, a little lower on the list, but important, some reserve help. Most notably a "bad day, worse day" or whatever you want to call it for reserve day trading. Plus, an auto release like NK would be swell.
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Originally Posted by Aero1900 View Post
I'd like to see some improved:

- LTD language

- Sick time usage protection/PTO or something that allows us to use paid time off/ sick without fear of discipline. Or maybe able to sell sick time back? I don't know

-16+ % DC fund

- No increase in health care costs

- No vacation concessions of any sort and hopefully gain a 5th week at 15 years of service

I wonder what the survey questions will even be?
Individual healthcare costs are capped as a % right now. Canít remember the % but itís around 30%. There was no cap previously. Maybe lower that % a bit to match whatever itís currently at. Mid 20ish %. Nk has a max annual increase of 4% but I donít believe they have a cap? We were also able to lock in coverage on all existing medical procedures in the current agreement.

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Old 05-13-2022, 08:47 AM
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Min day, get rid of min duty average. Tired of flying 3 day redeyes for 10 hrs.
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Old 05-13-2022, 10:44 AM
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I wonder what the survey questions will even be?
They were something like; how satisfied with your MEC are you? How satisfied with management are you? Do you want more get togethers? Do you like the correspondence frequency and methods? There was only one question on what you want in the future with your top concerns. So naturally I said not paying for snacks, stripes on ties for everybody, and getting the new binders covered by company for my collectible animal trading cards.
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Originally Posted by Aero1900 View Post
I'd like to see some improved:

- LTD language

- Sick time usage protection/PTO or something that allows us to use paid time off/ sick without fear of discipline. Or maybe able to sell sick time back? I don't know

-16+ % DC fund

- No increase in health care costs

- No vacation concessions of any sort and hopefully gain a 5th week at 15 years of service

I wonder what the survey questions will even be?
LOL, these look like goals for a regional contact after United's AIP. We have some work to do to even get close.
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Old 05-13-2022, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MCDUie View Post
Min day, get rid of min duty average. Tired of flying 3 day redeyes for 10 hrs.
Then donít bid those.


What I was trying to say:
Those are okay for reserves, and suck for junior line holders. But if you go to min calendar day, the wil be split it up some other way. No way they will pay you 3 days for working 8 hours and 32 hrs TAFB.
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Old 05-13-2022, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by doz4dllrs View Post
Has anything changed since last survey round?

Scope
LTD
Work rules
Pay
Hotel

Are there any changes in priority or order? What else?
Anything leading w/ "scope" screams of a MGT plant...

Not only that - 16% DC? Are you kidding? Delta is asking for 23%

This is a DUMB thread and should be closed. Responding and sharing wants/likes/desires gives MGT the upper hand.

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