^^^^^^^^^^^ just to start

Orrrrr…. I could just ask the union to improve the areas I find deficient in the current contract and you can do the same.

Absolutely. Daily pay is just not the one to aim for. Hourly rates, red-eye override, higher rigs, you name it. Aking for more money per day WILL just increase utilization for that day.

I agree that scope is an odd 1st priority

I said 16+% ! Lol. Obviously the more the better but as some point you run into IRS limits anyhow so it could be seen as wasted negotiating capital. (I realize cash over cap exists) but if all the captains are hitting IRS limits, other items are probably more in need of "attention"

I don’t see the down side of working higher credit trips that allow for more days off with your family. 10hr 3 days create 75hr lines. I’ll take the higher credit.

It would be nice to still have commutable trips.

Ask the Midwest guys if scope shouldn’t always be first priority.


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I believe RAH bought the assets post chapter 7. I don't think scope would have help, but I maybe mistaken.

I don’t think so…

“On June 23, 2009, Republic Airways Holdings, Inc announced they would acquire Midwest Airlines for $31 million. The deal closed on July 30.[28] Midwest became a wholly owned subsidiary of Republic Airways and continued to operate under current branding.[29] The Midwest Airlines FAA operating certificate expired on November 3, 2009. The acquisition by Republic occurred just 22 months after TPG and Northwest Airlines paid $450 million for Midwest. The total loss of investment by TPG and Northwest was 93% or $419 million.

On September 3, 2008, Midwest Airlines announced its plan to outsource all of its flight operations to Republic Airways. Republic began operating twelve 76-seat Embraer ERJ-170 jets under the Midwest Connect name while Midwest returned its 25 Boeing 717 planes to Boeing under a lease renegotiation.[30] While this change caused the additional layoffs bringing the total of pink-slipped Midwest pilots to nearly 300[31] and total employee cuts for the year to 1,850,[32] Midwest indicated that it hoped to begin operating these new planes itself with Midwest crews in 8–12 months from that time.[30] Additional aircraft from Republic were added to the operation in the form of larger Embraer ERJ-190s in August 2009.”

From wikipedia


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And I would rather have commutable trips, so aiming for something that benefits all (better rigs & pay) is better than something that hurts half of us (daily pay). You keep calling it a three day, so you would be totally happy with a 2 day check-in 10 minutes pay midnight, red-eye to the east coast. Long sit, back early afternoon. Pays 10 hours, same TAFB as those horrible 3 days, and same 10 hour pay. They optimize trips to minimize crew pay.