Your argument would be stronger except….”What Spirit Airlines is doing has precedent. Airlines in the United States, such as American Airlines, Delta Air Lines, and United Airlines, all used their loyalty programs as collateral for loans to persevere during the worst of the COVID-19 pandemic downturn.”

 

Welcome back, Blue. Missed ya Bud.

Here's a question for all of you guys constantly attacking me: What the heck do you think I should be doing exactly? You want me to be "pushing hard to fix significant issues and pushing hard for improved working conditions, work rules, pay and benefits"

Ok. Tell me how exactly I'm supposed to do that? I'm not in management. I'm just a regular ol' line pilot. Show me where to push and I'll push! For God sake, we aren't even in contract negotiations! On my next flight should I get on the PA at the gate counter and tell the passengers that they shouldn't board the airplane until we get 'own occupation' LTD until age 65? Or should I tell the passengers on my welcome aboard PA that the company brought in 44 of our pilots to ask them about their sick time use and they should immediately get off the plane and buy a ticket on Delta instead? Should I go to my kids elementary school and organize a letter writing campaign to Biffle telling him to give me a raise?

What about reality? Anyone up for a dose of reality? Or are we all cool with bullsh*tting keyboard warriors pretending that they are really "fighting" for improvements when in reality all they are doing is b*tching on the forums at their fellow pilots?

We work under a negotiated labor contract, right? We agreed to it! (by 70%) We have to live with it until we can negotiate another one. And when that happens we will each have our chance to vote yes or no. In the meantime, I will do what you all want to try to get this place to run out of applicants. But beyond that, I'm just going to enjoy my job and be good to my fellow crew members. During our last contract negotiations, I attend both of our picketing events. I wore the ugly orange lanyard.I attended the union sales pitch and asked questions. I bought pizza for my entire crew last time I was on a trip. But I'm the enemy according to BlueDriver. nice.

Here ya go Keyboard warriors who think I'm not fighting the good fight:

ATTENTION ALL PROSPECTIVE APPLICANTS TO FRONTIER:
DO NOT COME HERE! GO TO DELTA UNIT FRONTIER GETS A BETTER CONTRACT!!!

We don't start negotiating for a year and won't have a deal for another 3 years after that, but I'm really fighting here guys! I bet Franke and Biffle are going to show up at my door tomorrow with a pile of cash now! I really learned from the wisdom of BlueDriver. So glad he stopped by to educate me. So glad I can completely circumvent our CBA and the RLA process to score big for the pilot group. And all I had to do was a little keyboard warrior action! Its good to not be the 'enemy' anymore... I'll sleep better tonight

 

Yeah, no sh*t.

What did you expect? We are working under a CBA we agreed to. Its the companies job to staff the airline, grow and make money. They are doing exactly that.

 

They want you to tell everybody how bad your company is so they don’t come.

They want to to encourage your coworkers (FOs/Capts) to leave (so they can move up/have leverage).

And they don’t want you to go one inch beyond what is necessary to do your job. All the while complaining how no one else meets the standard.

Good luck.

 

All but one of them:
http://mediaroom.jetblue.com/investor-relations.aspx

 

Bluedriver is right. Instead of getting defensive, try and learn a little from what he says. He may not be who you think. What’s more, F9 doesn’t have the luxury of 5 years to re visit the CBA unless they want to stop growth completely. The pilot shortage will not allow it.

 

I agree with this... People saying its gonna take 3 years to get a contract, that is 3 years too long for Frontier to survive in a market where pilots can go anywhere. I would expect to see a CBA finalized by mid 2025 most likely.

 

There is a difference in being a realist and a Pollyanna. Whether frontier pilots are in negotiations or not IMO isn’t relevant. This management has shown time and time again how they view labor, and it’s important for prospective pilots to understand who they will be working for and the issues that need rectified. Does that come across as being overly negative at times? Of course it can. But in my case, this is the result of managements actions, and they get what they give. They have the ability to change for the better. And they don’t get the benefit of the doubt. They get credit for making money, but look around the industry right now.

 

Well said...

 

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