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Old 01-23-2023 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Beehan
Ofc there are a few that do this, like various regionals' retention bonuses which must be paid back if you don't flow to their major or retire from the regional. The sleazy part about F9's bonus however is that it is not so cleverly designed to be a "pre employment" bonus so it's outside of our contract. I wonder if a judge/arbitrator would see it that way.. a transparent attempt to circumvent our cba. On the other hand, that also makes you wonder WHY this isn't covered by our cba.
I’ll be surprised if we win the grievance against the bonus. Don’t hold your breath. 😂
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Old 01-23-2023 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboFanMan
I’ll be surprised if we win the grievance against the bonus. Don’t hold your breath. 😂
We'll find out in four years.
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Old 01-23-2023 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by b42day
Great... knowingly violate the very same CBA you'll be working under from day 1. Hotels for new hires is also a CBA violation as upgrades and commuters pay for their own....it is clear they're both CBA violations and pilots willingly doing it...we are our own worst enemy...yeah welcome to Frontier....🙄
This is a poorly constructed, ill-informed, horribly written post, if anyone is wondering.
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Old 01-23-2023 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BufordT Justice
This is a poorly constructed, ill-informed, horribly written post, if anyone is wondering.
Please elaborate...
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Old 01-23-2023 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by b42day
Please elaborate...
You’re accusing new hires of “willingly violating” a CBA they don’t even have access to. If you want to be upset, be upset at the company for attempting to skirt the contract, or be upset at the company for not offering hotels to upgrades and commuters. Submitting an emotional rant founded in irrationality and full of errors isn’t helping your cause.
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Old 01-23-2023 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BufordT Justice
You’re accusing new hires of “willingly violating” a CBA they don’t even have access to. If you want to be upset, be upset at the company for attempting to skirt the contract, or be upset at the company for not offering hotels to upgrades and commuters. Submitting an emotional rant founded in irrationality and full of errors isn’t helping your cause.

They do know...if they've done their research...and sets things up from day one how things work here at FUNtier...

I didn't know we were writing essays here. Thanks for your advice my life is better thanks to you..
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Old 01-23-2023 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by b42day
They do know...if they've done their research...and sets things up from day one how things work here at FUNtier...

I didn't know we were writing essays here. Thanks for your advice my life is better thanks to you..
Oh, they do? Where are they able to “do their research” to find these willful contract violations they’re so eagerly partaking?
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Old 01-23-2023 | 09:47 AM
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[QUOTE=BufordT Justice;3577608]Oh, they do? Where are they able to “do their research” to find these willful contract violations they’re so eagerly partaking?[/

Listen I'm not going to argue. It's a violation. They both are. Why are you defending it? Didn't someone post the ALPA letter stating as much?
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Old 01-23-2023 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by b42day
Listen I'm not going to argue. It's a violation. They both are. Why are you defending it? Didn't someone post the ALPA letter stating as much?
This isn’t an argument. You are accusing your coworkers of knowingly and willfully violating a contract they don’t even have access to. Your ire is directed at your fellow pilot, which doesn’t even make sense.

If you think it’s a contract violation and they should be doing their research to avoid it, perhaps you could share with the group where they should be looking to find this information. Instead, you’re here pretending they’re intentionally harming the pilot group and posting your faux outrage for the world to see.

Nothing you have posted has helped anyone.
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Old 01-23-2023 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BufordT Justice
This isn’t an argument. You are accusing your coworkers of knowingly and willfully violating a contract they don’t even have access to. Your ire is directed at your fellow pilot, which doesn’t even make sense.

If you think it’s a contract violation and they should be doing their research to avoid it, perhaps you could share with the group where they should be looking to find this information. Instead, you’re here pretending they’re intentionally harming the pilot group and posting your faux outrage for the world to see.

Nothing you have posted has helped anyone.
Who said I'm trying to help? They're contract violations. I've seen the ALPA letter posted in various platforms...potential "coworkers" should have seen it too...
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