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11-20-2022 | 09:33 AM
#161
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Hard to have much pride in your brand when the only employees left working for the brand are pilots and FA’s. Outsourced ramp, gate agents, mechs, cleaning, catering owned by another company etc….No actual Frontier employees to handle the ins and outs. And Frontier was such a prolific brand in its day.
11-20-2022 | 07:05 PM
#162
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Joined: Apr 2021
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[*]Why is it that 244 F/O's have resigned in the last 2 years? Their average longevity? 2.4 years. For perspective, in that same period of time Frontier has hired 657 pilots yet the seniority list has grown by just 347 pilots (26 retirements and a few terminations/deaths).
Thanks again for sharing the data. Since the union has been tracking but not providing us the attrition information I have also been tracking it on the side. With the numbers you provided you completed the puzzle I was building and can share some of the data.
While attrition is bad I was always curious how bad and where the people were leaving from on the SL…
We have lost 133 new hires out of the 647. 20%. the remaining people lost (177) were greater than 2 years seniority. And since there were those retirements that means we lost 10% of our pre Covid work force in the last two years to attrition.
I can’t say I’m surprised with the way the industry is right now. Just an FYI if anybody cared…
11-26-2022 | 10:05 AM
#164
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Joined: Jun 2021
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From: Joystick Operator
Thanks again for sharing the data. Since the union has been tracking but not providing us the attrition information I have also been tracking it on the side. With the numbers you provided you completed the puzzle I was building and can share some of the data.
While attrition is bad I was always curious how bad and where the people were leaving from on the SL…
We have lost 133 new hires out of the 647. 20%. the remaining people lost (177) were greater than 2 years seniority. And since there were those retirements that means we lost 10% of our pre Covid work force in the last two years to attrition.
I can’t say I’m surprised with the way the industry is right now. Just an FYI if anybody cared…
While attrition is bad I was always curious how bad and where the people were leaving from on the SL…
We have lost 133 new hires out of the 647. 20%. the remaining people lost (177) were greater than 2 years seniority. And since there were those retirements that means we lost 10% of our pre Covid work force in the last two years to attrition.
I can’t say I’m surprised with the way the industry is right now. Just an FYI if anybody cared…
Actually pretty nice to know. I do know probably 75% of my class came here with no intentions of staying and only using it to get to a legacy or out of their regional. It is a shame, but thats what we (and all LCCs) are right now, there is a lot of movement everywhere and even pilots with 5 years at Delta are leaving for UPS and Fedex.
11-26-2022 | 11:18 AM
#166
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Eh. Don’t worry. None of the existing pilots received their last paycheck on time either.
11-26-2022 | 12:05 PM
#170
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From: 737 CA
Pay was delayed by a matter of hours due to a software glitch. Just as it has happened to other large companies on occasion. 95% of pilots I know chuckled about it and moved on. Only a select small group of our most “special” pilots lost their minds.
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