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09-27-2023 | 06:54 PM

#251

Smokey23

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Originally Posted by dracir1

Perhaps you're right but part of me thinks you have to WORK at being this bad...

Keep in mind, the fuel prices are up for ALL airlines. If it were a contributing factor, then ALL airline stocks would be tanking.

Look at a six month chart for any of the Big 4 and they've all pretty much been in an idle-descent since July. Wall Street, forward-lookers that they are, concluded about mid-summer that the 'revenge travel' party was just about over and that fuel prices weren't likely to stay down. Granted, the % drop is greater with ULCC, but the entire industry is moving in the same direction.

10-13-2023 | 02:05 PM

#252

FlyingR6

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Anyone know when we should hear about F9s financials? Delta knocked it out of the park and I'm ready to hear more half truths and excuses from our management.

10-13-2023 | 02:41 PM

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SPAWNmaster

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Originally Posted by FlyingR6

Anyone know when we should hear about F9s financials? Delta knocked it out of the park and I'm ready to hear more half truths and excuses from our management.

Quarterly investor call usually first week of November. As always, reports and webcast deets posted on the investor site: https://ir.flyfrontier.com/. Someone usually scoops the story the week before and you'll see market reaction in advance with all the inside trading that happens so expect rumors to fly last week of October.

10-13-2023 | 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingR6

Anyone know when we should hear about F9s financials? Delta knocked it out of the park and I'm ready to hear more half truths and excuses from our management.

There's no chance they did well. Small profit at best.

10-13-2023 | 03:34 PM

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DontStahl320

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Reuters article about frontier and spirit doing horrible isn’t the best motivator. I feel we’ve probably peaked as an airline. We won’t be gaining any momentum in our negotiations. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

10-13-2023 | 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DontStahl320

we have peaked with our current “management”. The ulcc model is solid. Our management isn’t. Barry doesn’t have anything else to offer.

10-13-2023 | 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mooneyguy

we have peaked with our current “management”. The ulcc model is solid. Our management isn’t. Barry doesn’t have anything else to offer.

this 100%^^^

10-13-2023 | 05:04 PM

#258

Aero1900

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Originally Posted by Mooneyguy

we have peaked with our current “management”. The ulcc model is solid. Our management isn’t. Barry doesn’t have anything else to offer.

Agreed.

His latest plan was to "double down on cost"

That pretty much tells you he's run out of ideas. Time for some fresh blood

10-13-2023 | 05:09 PM

#259

FlyingR6

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Originally Posted by SPAWNmaster

Thanks for the detailed response.

In a somewhat related note, I did like seeing the attrition numbers in the union email from a few days ago. I hope they keep that up.