The SEC actually reviews business conduct for mismanagement. Stock holders interest are to be protected.

JetBlue explicitly stated they would raise fares as part of the joint company. The government said it would hurt consumers.

we are talking about the role of the government which is to manage resources pooled by the national for the good the nation.

special interest groups and lobbyists ruin that system. Corruption ruins the system.

but someone above said it wasn’t the job of the government to manage businesses? lol. That is the exact job of the government one of their many functions.

 

We think alike. This is exactly the same thing I wrote a few pages back (pg 187, entry #2 to be exact).

In the history of industry, one small player leaving almost NEVER benefits other small players. It does the exact opposite...

 

only because we gave the government wayyyy too much authority by letting them pick winners and losers instead of the market. And of course who ever has the bigger lobbying budget wins.

 

There is a niche for the bottom end. Yes the legacies could fight for it, Or they could make more money charging more and turn a profit while letting the problem children fly on Frontier.

I had a friend flying to LAS a few months ago on NK it was a five hour flight I told him "if its just $40 go for the big seat" he said "I just want to get the cheapest ticket possible"

That is a lot of people, there is a lot of overlap between F9 and NK so far as I know the only city we serve exclusively is TTN (unless you count the AA bus)

No one know what will happen in the future but in my life experience when you lose a direct competitor you get a boost. The real question is will F9 get traction on this or will it be flooding in drought plagued California?

My condolences to our fellow pilots at NK. May the bridges burning behind you light your way forward.

 

Spirit needed the merger because they had no other option. The gov isn’t there to save Spirit, there’s something called the free market. Also it didn’t help that the public opinion of Spirit was low to begin with. There could be hope for Spirit still but the industry wants it gone.

 

Many of the passengers Spirit generates won’t migrate to other airlines. They simply won’t travel.

 

Anecdotal regurgitation. Based on what?

 

Yea this makes no sense. You totally made this up and have absolutely no idea. People generally buy tickets for varying reasons depending on why they are traveling. If price is most important, they'll buy cheapest. If a time is most important, they'll buy the departure time that works best. If insuring you get there with the least amount of hassle and delays, they'll buy Delta or United.

 

If they want to fly, they are likely coming to Frontier

 

But that's only part of the free market. Banks (credit cards) make airlines profitable

NK and F9 have gates and fly out of ATL. NK goes under. F9 will still offer the SAME routes they had before - there is no capacity at ATL to pick up newer (extra destinations). The people that flew NK will still seek the cheapest route but that now might be DL as they ONLY HAVE TO LOWER PRICES to match F9 now (perhaps were hesitant to do so for both ULCCs as that was twice the capacity). In essence, DL would now operate as a new ULCC on the same routes NK had - offering those same budget flyers choices. And that's just DL, perhaps SWA might do the same.

Now think about ALL of NK/F9 share bases - DFW, CHI, PHL/ACY, LAS, MCO, etc. Obviously, there is legacy presence in all these areas.

Keep in mind, despite their reputation, NK still had a loyalty program, credit card, etc. Bankruptcy has all those customers now seeking new deals.

These airline CEOs aren't stupid...