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08-30-2023, 08:45 AM

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nene

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Originally Posted by Dragonslayer69

In either case it will freeze hiring and upgrades for at least two years when it becomes law whatever is settled on.

Does Frontier really have that many retirements coming in the next couple years?

08-30-2023, 09:37 AM

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JoeFever1

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Originally Posted by nene

Does Frontier really have that many retirements coming in the next couple years?

No. you can count on 2 hands each year. I don’t think it changes much at legacies either. They won’t be able to international until icao comes up to 67 and there’s still a ton of hiring to be done. I think it’s dumb and shouldn’t happen, but I also don’t think it will affect things very much either.

08-30-2023, 11:42 AM

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Stayontarget

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Originally Posted by nene

Does Frontier really have that many retirements coming in the next couple years?

No he is more referring to legacies slowing hiring way down as a result of the age increase. This would trickle down to the rest of us that have attrition problems. (Everybody else)

I can’t say whether or not it will have the intended affect and can see both sides of the argument.

08-30-2023, 01:04 PM

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telejet

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Originally Posted by madmax757

Is it basically 68 years old ? I haven’t been able find it and everyone is calling it age 67. Let’s say you start to fade with cognitive decline as an older person. Can you now medical out since you can’t remember the 26 items in our stabilized approach memory item? Will I get section 19d for taxing at 4 knots cause that’s how I drive my car ?

26 item stabilized approach memory item? What on earth is that? Care to explain for those of us not at F9?

08-30-2023, 01:46 PM

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26 item stabilized approach memory item? What on earth is that? Care to explain for those of us not at F9?

We have stabilized approach criteria?

08-30-2023, 02:40 PM

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HSCompressor

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We have stabilized approach criteria?

And that's how accidents and tailstrikes happen. good job

08-30-2023, 04:04 PM

#37

brocklee9000

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Originally Posted by dracir1

We have stabilized approach criteria?

Is it simpler at other companies? My regional had an equally-asinine set of memory items for stabilized criteria. For approaches: Below 1000 AGL, below 500, and then again for visual approaches. I don’t remember it being there when I was new, but a couple years in it showed up and was part of CQ every year.

so when I came here, I thought the unnecessarily wordy memory items were just the way of the ~~road~~ air, bubs. Then add in some of the other memory items. That TA/RA is stupid. I’m just glad we don’t have that many items overall.

08-30-2023, 05:15 PM

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So 65 exact to 67 exact. If it passes and is signed, not everyone will stay the two extra years. Crystal ball of many of us on here predict about half. That means an average of 66. So, one more year, on average.

One year’s worth of full hiring will get the industry about caught up with staffing needs. Then be in normal hiring mode, considering massive retirements.

Unless there is a massive Black Swan event (like 9/11 or WWIII), this is the way I see it.