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Originally Posted by Stayontarget
(Post 3740144)
Welcome to aviation. Good news is we are still hiring but just a reduced amount it would seem.
Anybody have an update for the class size that started the 18th? With only 16 spots on the bid sheet I would be surprised if it was more than 20. While it’s very early yet we are starting to see some trends. F9, NK, UPS, FDX slowing or no hiring. I’m sure there are others. |
Originally Posted by Stayontarget
(Post 3740144)
Welcome to aviation. Good news is we are still hiring but just a reduced amount it would seem.
Anybody have an update for the class size that started the 18th? With only 16 spots on the bid sheet I would be surprised if it was more than 20. While it’s very early yet we are starting to see some trends. F9, NK, UPS, FDX slowing or no hiring. I’m sure there are others. |
Seems like the legacies hired fat and now they will grow into it. F9 can't keep pilots. So, my guess is we will shrink somewhat reducing class sizes. That should do wonders for movement within the company.
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Originally Posted by Stayontarget
(Post 3740144)
While it’s very early yet we are starting to see some trends. F9, NK, UPS, FDX slowing or no hiring. I’m sure there are others.
UPS and FDX, in my opinion, are actually right sizing and have pressure from Amazon. They grew like mad during Covid, and now they are fat. Plus Amazon has been building and building this whole time, and are doing a lot more on the ground and in house with DHL, Atlas, and all those small cargo outfits. Again, my uneducated opinion. F9, on the other hand, no idea. With bases popping up and aircraft coming pretty quickly next year, who knows. |
Originally Posted by FlyingR6
(Post 3740266)
NK is very clearly because of their engine issues. I've heard they will be down 25 planes by this time next year.
UPS and FDX, in my opinion, are actually right sizing and have pressure from Amazon. They grew like mad during Covid, and now they are fat. Plus Amazon has been building and building this whole time, and are doing a lot more on the ground and in house with DHL, Atlas, and all those small cargo outfits. Again, my uneducated opinion. F9, on the other hand, no idea. With bases popping up and aircraft coming pretty quickly next year, who knows. I was listening to 121.5 podcast today and they had one of the career/interview prep guys on talking about a slowdown in the churn. These numbers are total guesses but we were seeing 1000 pilots a month, sans regionals, with job offers before and now we are probably seeing closer to 700. Maybe just a couple of major airlines slowing down is all it takes to start allowing everybody to catch up? Definitely still a great time to be a pilot. |
Originally Posted by planejoe
(Post 3740128)
It was my understanding that this new model is not yet fully implemented so I don't know what they mean by "working so well". Sorry to hear that you're back in the pool, doesn't make sense as we have new airplane deliveries in Q1 and a boat load of people leaving every month.
Oh, and that "commuting base" called MCO according to BB is down on both 3 and 4 day trips, and even then, only at 20% 3 days and a WHOPPING 1% 4 days. |
Originally Posted by spooldup
(Post 3740300)
Thats it. It isn't fully implemented... not even close. 3 bases went down in % of 1 day trips, only ONE base is above 50% 1 day trips, and that is DFW at 62%. Next closest base is ATL with 47%, but that is one of the bases that went down like 1% from December. The rest of the bases are all below 45%.
Oh, and that "commuting base" called MCO according to BB is down on both 3 and 4 day trips, and even then, only at 20% 3 days and a WHOPPING 1% 4 days. |
Originally Posted by Dragonslayer69
(Post 3740143)
What is this going to do to upgrades? That is the last weak thread keeping me here.
Without question the fastest way to upgrade is to get hired at UA,AA,DL and upgrade there! |
Originally Posted by GoCats67
(Post 3740433)
Times have definitely changed (and will again I am sure)
Without question the fastest way to upgrade is to get hired at UA,AA,DL and upgrade there! filler. |
Originally Posted by planejoe
(Post 3740128)
It was my understanding that this new model is not yet fully implemented so I don't know what they mean by "working so well". Sorry to hear that you're back in the pool, doesn't make sense as we have new airplane deliveries in Q1 and a boat load of people leaving every month.
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