Yeah, this is a SOLID NO from me. There's no way the so-called QoL items will make up the difference (especially when you consider the company will find a way to negate most of those items)...

everyone praises the QOL items. Forgetting we fly off hours more than any other carrier.

the majority of our seniority list is red eye flying.


what QOL is that? With more people and less resources. Pay me.

Give us intl and redeye override and min day and watch redeyes go senior... lol

Yeah, it's easy to say that now but when a TA arrives in your inbox with a $70,000 raise, it's a bit more complicated than "SOLID NO"

No the F it's not!!!!!

I can do math bro. Raising my pay up to the bottom (like last time) is a SOLID NO. If you're good with it, then we'll know come vote day.

that latest economic proposal from ALPA will absolutely be a yes vote

This mentality is exactly why F9 will remain a stepping stone airline.

that contract would result in far fewer people leaving this airline

The money is fine. It's the rest that will determine which way I'd vote.

People stay due to the seniority system (I will be leaving though). People come for the pay (or they didn't get called by the others who pay more). Do you think anyone is choosing F9 w/ an offer from anyone else? There is just no substitute for the rate - no amount of so called QoL items will make up for it. We just proved that last cycle.

Can't believe you'd be willing to do it again but to each his own...