Frontier Hiring.
#151
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In the past, from what I have been told, the Frontier Pilots are very quick to give concessions. This history is well known to Franke and the rest of the industry and anyone with business knowledge can and will forecast that Franke will ask for concessions.
Good Luck,
TEN
Good Luck,
TEN
We signed LOA 67 in 2011. This LOA did not reduce any pay rates or change any work rules. We postponed one year of longevity and reduced vacation and sick accrual. Again, every item is restored to full book value eventually.
In return for the LOA 67 concessions we negotiated a profit sharing plan and an equity stake in Frontier Airlines. The status of both of these plans remains unclear at this time.
I can attest that not one pilot at F9 is interested in giving up our ROI.
We have never been "quick" to give up concessions, and our CBA is proof. Not one work rule change after a trip through BK and full snap back to full book rates. We still have a 9.2% retirement match, increasing to 11.2% soon.
We have never been the highest paid, but I believe we have managed to hang on to A LOT considering what we have been through since April 2008.
#154
Second, Frontier didn't used to pay for hotels because all we had was a Denver base and management wanted our pilots to live in Denver. That was back in '07. I believe the newhires from RAH and Midwest hired in (2010 I think) had their hotels paid for during training, so I would expect that would be the the case going forward.
Seems like we've got several F9 guys in this thread--any words on what the interviews will look like?
Last edited by Jughead135; 08-15-2013 at 06:13 PM.
#155
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If F9 was a career airline, why the need to hire for attrition? Is it all retirements or are they jumping ship?
#156
#157
I've been commuting on them for over a decade now.
Not they're the ONLY one to go through a transformation. But it was sad to watch the transformation of a company that was pretty good, had mostly happy employees, a good customer base, etc get pretty much wrecked by RAH holding.
Of course, the spin could go multiple directions on that, but just sayin'........
Not they're the ONLY one to go through a transformation. But it was sad to watch the transformation of a company that was pretty good, had mostly happy employees, a good customer base, etc get pretty much wrecked by RAH holding.
Of course, the spin could go multiple directions on that, but just sayin'........
#158
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As for concessions, the investor has leverage at this point (the threat that the deal won't happen without the concessions). That carries some weight with the flight attendants, but for us, it's moot because IBT has no interest in giving concessions on the F9 side, except perhaps in return for some juicy bone that might be offered to the RAH pilots.
After the deal is done (and I sure hope it happens), and we have real representation again, then the investor has lost that leverage. All of the previous gives that our pilot group has voted for have happened under duress. It would take at LEAST a few months of poor results before we'd vote for any further concessions.
Last edited by FAULTPUSH; 08-16-2013 at 06:07 AM.
#159
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#160
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Nice try but not true. There were 2 companies in the bidding process for F9. RAH and WN were both interested. If RAH would have dropped out WN would have aquired F9. No need to debate which would have been a better option for the different employee groups, been there and done that. Just the facts Right Seat Dude.
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