Frontier Hiring.
#3261
Just applied and planning on attending the Denver career fair in September. I've spent the last 19 years as a part 91 Aviation Department Manager/Chief Pilot. Things are not looking good at my employer. All flying has been two pilot crew. No 121 and a little 135 time. Frontier looks like a perfect fit for me. Family in Denver, and Orlando. I live in the Midwest so ORD would also work. Took me a week to read this entire thread! Thanks for all the great insight. This sounds like a group I would like to work with. Wish me luck.
9535 TT
4600 TPIC
ATP
Turbojet FE
9535 TT
4600 TPIC
ATP
Turbojet FE
We are in for some serious times while we get our pay back into the realm of reality, but I still like my job and the people I work with. It's what you make of it.
Good luck!
#3265
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#3267
Considering how much money the company spent defending the numerous lawsuits and grievances filed by the IBT 357 and YX ALPA, I'd guess they may be reluctant to "cross-pollinate", and have another ticking time-bomb on the seniority list.
A few Midwest pilots were hired in 2009-10 with the agreement that they wouldn't exercise their integrated seniority list (SLI) seniority since the legality of the SLI hadn't been determined. As soon as they got off of probation they filed an ALPA backed dispute. The company (RAH management at the time) caved, and the ex-Midwest pilots bid under the SLI seniority for several months (not sure how long it actually was), and "upset" the legacy Frontier pilots a bit. The litigation surrounding that cost Frontier a ton of cash that didn't need to be spent. That mistake has been corrected by the courts and arbitrator, and they're back to bidding their DOH at Frontier. This is why we can't have nice things I suppose.
Frontier dropped pilots' email accounts last year, and discontinued the toll free customer service number in June (as have Spirit and Allegiant Frontier Airlines eliminates toll-free customer service calls - The Denver Post). We have to fight an expensive daily battle to enforce our contract when management tries to save cash by intentionally violating it. This Indigo management group isn't interested in making a move that has any chance of costing them an extra penny.
There was a brief time when a handful of RAH pilots resigned their positions at RAH, and were hired at DOH seniority by Frontier. They were welcomed to the property as all new-hires are. I've been told some RAH pilots have been interviewed since, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting to be hired.
Sorry, but its the plain truth of the matter.
A few Midwest pilots were hired in 2009-10 with the agreement that they wouldn't exercise their integrated seniority list (SLI) seniority since the legality of the SLI hadn't been determined. As soon as they got off of probation they filed an ALPA backed dispute. The company (RAH management at the time) caved, and the ex-Midwest pilots bid under the SLI seniority for several months (not sure how long it actually was), and "upset" the legacy Frontier pilots a bit. The litigation surrounding that cost Frontier a ton of cash that didn't need to be spent. That mistake has been corrected by the courts and arbitrator, and they're back to bidding their DOH at Frontier. This is why we can't have nice things I suppose.
Frontier dropped pilots' email accounts last year, and discontinued the toll free customer service number in June (as have Spirit and Allegiant Frontier Airlines eliminates toll-free customer service calls - The Denver Post). We have to fight an expensive daily battle to enforce our contract when management tries to save cash by intentionally violating it. This Indigo management group isn't interested in making a move that has any chance of costing them an extra penny.
There was a brief time when a handful of RAH pilots resigned their positions at RAH, and were hired at DOH seniority by Frontier. They were welcomed to the property as all new-hires are. I've been told some RAH pilots have been interviewed since, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting to be hired.
Sorry, but its the plain truth of the matter.
#3268
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Hey will now that Frontier is doing away with their toll free call-in number they have more money for the pilots. Nothing like waiting 45 minutes on hold and paying for the call. And yes, not everyone uses cell phones with free long distance. What an industry. What's next, charging for coats, watches, false teeth?
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Hey will now that Frontier is doing away with their toll free call-in number they have more money for the pilots. Nothing like waiting 45 minutes on hold and paying for the call. And yes, not everyone uses cell phones with free long distance. What an industry. What's next, charging for coats, watches, false teeth?
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