Frontier Hiring.
01-15-2014, 10:37 AM
#491
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Originally Posted by zoooropa
While our marketing tag line is "a whole different animal" and our day to day operations are a complete fkin circus I think the best strategy from an applicant perspective may be.."think conservative".
The folks involved in hiring know that applicants are putting on a show. If your day one interview involves underpants and party streamers you will definitely fit in on an overnight but you will have a hard time getting past the bean counters.
I hope your originality prevails. This entire process, industry wide, takes itself way too seriously.
The folks involved in hiring know that applicants are putting on a show. If your day one interview involves underpants and party streamers you will definitely fit in on an overnight but you will have a hard time getting past the bean counters.
I hope your originality prevails. This entire process, industry wide, takes itself way too seriously.
When I worked as a manager tasked with hiring, it was very easy to weed out the dopes and idiots - you just look at how they spell, present themselves on paper, proofread their work, etc...
For Frontier (and all may mock me if they wish), I included a cover letter which, toward the conclusion, mentioned that as a father to two boys and as a spouse, I have learned negotiation skills as well as utilizing the resources available to the crew consisting of my wife and myself. I went out on a limb, though, and briefly explained how our four year old loves the animals depicted on the aircraft tails and hence believes that many of the Frontier employees may, in fact, consist of animals. My son is convinced that my cover letter should therefore be addressed to the spokes animals. So I took his advice. I wrote three cover letters to three of the more prominent spokes animals for Frontier as well, complete with fantastic animal puns, metaphors, etc... I figured if it makes one person chuckle on the other end of the email address, perhaps, while they may mock me behind my back, they may also find that simple cover letters and resumes crammed with airplane numbers and tallies presents very little of the applicant's personality. If it doesn't come to be, then so be it. I'll just ground my four year old, send him to his room and tell him not to come out until he finds another clever way to get daddy a job...
As of yet, no plans for streamers and underwear at the interview. That will come after the offer letter...
Cheers!
01-15-2014, 11:21 AM
#492
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Originally Posted by Doc1010
This has always been such a fascinating issue, especially in the aviation industry. I am able to hire a resume/cover letter assistance company, forward all of my credentials on to them, and they will respond with a traditionally formatted resume and a cover letter that differentiates me from, say, Joe Shmoe, in only a miniscule way. If Joe and I have similar credentials, experience, etc... a cover letter then becomes just another piece of paper saying very little. It's like printing money with no tangible backing - it's just another piece of colorful paper. I think these services are excellent, certainly for those who are not as fond of creating and writing, or those who are not terribly computer literate, but perhaps not necessary for all.
When I worked as a manager tasked with hiring, it was very easy to weed out the dopes and idiots - you just look at how they spell, present themselves on paper, proofread their work, etc...
For Frontier (and all may mock me if they wish), I included a cover letter which, toward the conclusion, mentioned that as a father to two boys and as a spouse, I have learned negotiation skills as well as utilizing the resources available to the crew consisting of my wife and myself. I went out on a limb, though, and briefly explained how our four year old loves the animals depicted on the aircraft tails and hence believes that many of the Frontier employees may, in fact, consist of animals. My son is convinced that my cover letter should therefore be addressed to the spokes animals. So I took his advice. I wrote three cover letters to three of the more prominent spokes animals for Frontier as well, complete with fantastic animal puns, metaphors, etc... I figured if it makes one person chuckle on the other end of the email address, perhaps, while they may mock me behind my back, they may also find that simple cover letters and resumes crammed with airplane numbers and tallies presents very little of the applicant's personality. If it doesn't come to be, then so be it. I'll just ground my four year old, send him to his room and tell him not to come out until he finds another clever way to get daddy a job...
As of yet, no plans for streamers and underwear at the interview. That will come after the offer letter...
Cheers!
When I worked as a manager tasked with hiring, it was very easy to weed out the dopes and idiots - you just look at how they spell, present themselves on paper, proofread their work, etc...
For Frontier (and all may mock me if they wish), I included a cover letter which, toward the conclusion, mentioned that as a father to two boys and as a spouse, I have learned negotiation skills as well as utilizing the resources available to the crew consisting of my wife and myself. I went out on a limb, though, and briefly explained how our four year old loves the animals depicted on the aircraft tails and hence believes that many of the Frontier employees may, in fact, consist of animals. My son is convinced that my cover letter should therefore be addressed to the spokes animals. So I took his advice. I wrote three cover letters to three of the more prominent spokes animals for Frontier as well, complete with fantastic animal puns, metaphors, etc... I figured if it makes one person chuckle on the other end of the email address, perhaps, while they may mock me behind my back, they may also find that simple cover letters and resumes crammed with airplane numbers and tallies presents very little of the applicant's personality. If it doesn't come to be, then so be it. I'll just ground my four year old, send him to his room and tell him not to come out until he finds another clever way to get daddy a job...
As of yet, no plans for streamers and underwear at the interview. That will come after the offer letter...
Cheers!
I went out on a limb once with a creative resume at a Jet Blue open-house. I can't know for sure, but I've always felt it did more damage than good. What seemed like pure random selection, three of us were whisked into a room for an on-the-spot interview. We were plopped down in front of a very serious looking check-airman. Our resumes already on the table before him. From my vantage, viewed upside-down, the other pilot's resumes looked clean and standard. He methodically looked them over one at a time, lifted his head and addressed me by name. He peered into my soul, and then proceeded to summarily take me apart. The other two blokes didn't know whether to feel sorry for me or thank me for taking all the heat off them - LOL!
01-15-2014, 12:08 PM
#493
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Originally Posted by sulkair
Doc1010, as a father of a 6 and 4 year old myself, and a co-pilot wife,(wait maybe she's the captain.) I really like your approach. Thanks for filling us in on the details. I hope it works out for you.
I went out on a limb once with a creative resume at a Jet Blue open-house. I can't know for sure, but I've always felt it did more damage than good. What seemed like pure random selection, three of us were whisked into a room for an on-the-spot interview. We were plopped down in front of a very serious looking check-airman. Our resumes already on the table before him. From my vantage, viewed upside-down, the other pilot's resumes looked clean and standard. He methodically looked them over one at a time, lifted his head and addressed me by name. He peered into my soul, and then proceeded to summarily take me apart. The other two blokes didn't know whether to feel sorry for me or thank me for taking all the heat off them - LOL!
I went out on a limb once with a creative resume at a Jet Blue open-house. I can't know for sure, but I've always felt it did more damage than good. What seemed like pure random selection, three of us were whisked into a room for an on-the-spot interview. We were plopped down in front of a very serious looking check-airman. Our resumes already on the table before him. From my vantage, viewed upside-down, the other pilot's resumes looked clean and standard. He methodically looked them over one at a time, lifted his head and addressed me by name. He peered into my soul, and then proceeded to summarily take me apart. The other two blokes didn't know whether to feel sorry for me or thank me for taking all the heat off them - LOL!
Ha ha! Well, I guess I figure anywhere that can't appreciate a little individuality (outside the cockpit of course) probably isn't a great fit. But really funny story! It's never too great when the check-airman starts to stare into your soul, though.
As for the approach, I hope it works out, too. But regardless, writing letters to animals certainly diverted the insanity of hoping for a call into a new direction of insanity, even if for only a couple hours.
01-16-2014, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc1010
My son is convinced that my cover letter should therefore be addressed to the spokes animals. So I took his advice. I wrote three cover letters to three of the more prominent spokes animals for Frontier as well, complete with fantastic animal puns, metaphors, etc...
01-17-2014, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Jughead135
This may actually work in your favor, at least at the HR level. The HR gal (BT) at my interview waxed quite poetically about how much she loves the animals, knows all their names, etc....
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