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10-22-2016 | 09:34 PM
#5802
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From: A320 Captain
10-22-2016 | 09:42 PM
#5803
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No they moved the October class to the Airport. You get to work the ramp during flight banks and do GS at the picnic tables when not chucking bags or doing the lav service. When you're line qualified you can work the ramp while on reserve to help pro rate the training contract. It's like a work / release program.
One of the best quotes ever!
10-23-2016 | 02:52 AM
#5805
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From: CL3500 Capt
If you are looking at F9 or any other LCC as just a stepping stone (couple of years) you may be much better off at a wholly owned regional, with a quick upgrade, better first-year pay, health and travel benefits and not to mention commuter hotels in some cases.
Which one are you thinking of for a west coaster?
And if you are young enough, don't forget the flow. In the meantime just keep applying for OTS hiring. Win-Win!
Which one are you thinking of for a west coaster?
And if you are young enough, don't forget the flow. In the meantime just keep applying for OTS hiring. Win-Win!
10-23-2016 | 02:54 AM
#5806
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From: CL3500 Capt
You know, DAL doesn't pay for hotels after INDOC.
The truth is Y1 here is tough and ugly. And Indigo has made it harder by delaying necessary pay increases. When you look at F9 you simply have to decide if you can outlast Indigo. If you have 30 years left, you'll probably do very well for yourself at F9. If you have 5 years left, you'd do better somewhere else. If you have the ability to come and outlast the owners (who have been very vocal about making a profit and getting out quickly) then the long-term potential makes F9 more attractive.
Alas, to each his own. Set goals, make plans, stay the course. In the economy of 2016 it won't take long to land that dream job.
The truth is Y1 here is tough and ugly. And Indigo has made it harder by delaying necessary pay increases. When you look at F9 you simply have to decide if you can outlast Indigo. If you have 30 years left, you'll probably do very well for yourself at F9. If you have 5 years left, you'd do better somewhere else. If you have the ability to come and outlast the owners (who have been very vocal about making a profit and getting out quickly) then the long-term potential makes F9 more attractive.
Alas, to each his own. Set goals, make plans, stay the course. In the economy of 2016 it won't take long to land that dream job.
10-23-2016 | 04:57 AM
#5808
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From: 1900D CA
I do not think Philly will be a pilot domicile. Frontier is going to add 16 airplanes in the next 14 months, and no one knows where that growth will occur. As has been discussed here, Denver and Chicago don't have the gates to grow. I suspect we will see new routes announced soon and that will likely point to the new domicile. If I were a gambling man, I'd bet on Vegas
10-23-2016 | 06:51 AM
#5809
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You can beat them
Typing for my Dad. The parent company is about one thing and one thing only. Money. You are handicapped by the RLA. The game is rigged against you. The only way you can win against this company and the RLA is-- don't play the game. You are restricted as what you can do to make the company play nice. But one thing the RLA does not/cannot do is force you to work for the company. You can quit. The company is happy if a few disgruntled types quit. Less headaches for them. But if you guys are really unified you can make them crap their trousers. As I said the company is about money. If suddenly 50-60% or more of the pilots sign resignation letters, make a big stack and tell your NC if the company does not come to terms four weeks before the Christmas rush begins, turn in the stack. The company would lose everything. They won't let that happen. Anything that brings negative attention to the company they fear. It would also trigger fed attention as they don't like organized unrest on that scale The company can drag this out for years just like BBradford did. Don't play the game. Force their hand. They either want the cash cow or they don't. I know they don't want to lose a butt load of money to save a little. They cannot replace you quickly. It would kill their business. Those trying to organize this need to be careful and let the union know they will be toast is they do not protect the organizers (easy to do think forth gen warfare- have a lot of organizers- too many to fire) You just have to be unified and let them know you mean it. I really don't think the company will call you out. If you want better, its yours. You just have to be unified and willing to destroy their business.
10-23-2016 | 06:58 AM
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The potential for something like this to end very badly is almost certain. Measures like this might be warranted if we were losing our fingers, hands, and eyeballs on the unsafe factory floor while stepping over dead bodies - worked to death.
Right now we're on the right track - we need to play it smart, and be patient.
Right now we're on the right track - we need to play it smart, and be patient.
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