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#8453
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2017
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and this poor kid just sealed his fate with not getting hired here. Hiring does read these forums, and I'm sure theres not a ton of 23 yr old PSA FO's wanting to live in Orlando applying at F9. Good luck convincing them you don't want to just up and leave now...
#8455
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2016
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Right seat here. I have 2 years in and crickets from SWA and DAL.
I don't update at UAL or AA. If you want AA, definitely stay where you are because they hire very few civilian pilots outside of their regional flow agreements.
I don't update at UAL or AA. If you want AA, definitely stay where you are because they hire very few civilian pilots outside of their regional flow agreements.
#8456
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Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 494
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From: A320 CA
I wish there was a way to go back in time 20 years so that you could follow my career progression. I’d tell you to watch what I did and then do the exact opposite! I’ve pretty much made the wrong decision every time a decision needed to be made.
Without boring you with all the details, most of my bad decisions can be summed up by pointing out that I was chasing “quality of life” early in my career instead of attaining whatever the best airlines were looking for in terms of hiring criteria.
Things change and there’s no way to know *exactly* what the best airlines will want, but PIC and Education are constant themes. The more you have of both, the more options you’ll have.
Warning: Old Fart advice ahead... “Quality of life” will be more important to you 10 years from now than it is today. The platitude posters are mostly wrong when they say money can’t buy happiness. If you have a bunch of excess money, the annoyances of life can be mitigated. If your pay scale is high enough and you’re not working for a bottom feeder ULCC, you can afford to work less and spend more time at home even if you’re commuting. You won’t feel like your spouse has to work which will mean more quality time when you’re home. You can hire out more time consuming and undesireable tasks around the house.
Yes, the industry goes up and the industry goes down. I remember for a brief flash in time, F9 pilots were being paid better than UAL narrowbody pilots. That was a short-lived anomaly. As I’ve said in previous posts, yes, all airlines have issues. F9 continues to struggle with BS Third World style issues while better airlines have First World issues.
TL/DR: Do NOW whatever it takes to get on with a high quality airline ASAP because you’ll appreciate the QOL this provides between age 30 and retirement MUCH more than the limited improvement you’ll see by taking the instant gratification of going to a less desirable ULCC today.
My humble opinion as a 50 year old, 2nd career, 14 year F9 guy. Take it (or leave it) for what it’s worth!
Without boring you with all the details, most of my bad decisions can be summed up by pointing out that I was chasing “quality of life” early in my career instead of attaining whatever the best airlines were looking for in terms of hiring criteria.
Things change and there’s no way to know *exactly* what the best airlines will want, but PIC and Education are constant themes. The more you have of both, the more options you’ll have.
Warning: Old Fart advice ahead... “Quality of life” will be more important to you 10 years from now than it is today. The platitude posters are mostly wrong when they say money can’t buy happiness. If you have a bunch of excess money, the annoyances of life can be mitigated. If your pay scale is high enough and you’re not working for a bottom feeder ULCC, you can afford to work less and spend more time at home even if you’re commuting. You won’t feel like your spouse has to work which will mean more quality time when you’re home. You can hire out more time consuming and undesireable tasks around the house.
Yes, the industry goes up and the industry goes down. I remember for a brief flash in time, F9 pilots were being paid better than UAL narrowbody pilots. That was a short-lived anomaly. As I’ve said in previous posts, yes, all airlines have issues. F9 continues to struggle with BS Third World style issues while better airlines have First World issues.
TL/DR: Do NOW whatever it takes to get on with a high quality airline ASAP because you’ll appreciate the QOL this provides between age 30 and retirement MUCH more than the limited improvement you’ll see by taking the instant gratification of going to a less desirable ULCC today.
My humble opinion as a 50 year old, 2nd career, 14 year F9 guy. Take it (or leave it) for what it’s worth!
#8457
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Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 690
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I wish there was a way to go back in time 20 years so that you could follow my career progression. I’d tell you to watch what I did and then do the exact opposite! I’ve pretty much made the wrong decision every time a decision needed to be made.
Without boring you with all the details, most of my bad decisions can be summed up by pointing out that I was chasing “quality of life” early in my career instead of attaining whatever the best airlines were looking for in terms of hiring criteria.
Things change and there’s no way to know *exactly* what the best airlines will want, but PIC and Education are constant themes. The more you have of both, the more options you’ll have.
Warning: Old Fart advice ahead... “Quality of life” will be more important to you 10 years from now than it is today. The platitude posters are mostly wrong when they say money can’t buy happiness. If you have a bunch of excess money, the annoyances of life can be mitigated. If your pay scale is high enough and you’re not working for a bottom feeder ULCC, you can afford to work less and spend more time at home even if you’re commuting. You won’t feel like your spouse has to work which will mean more quality time when you’re home. You can hire out more time consuming and undesireable tasks around the house.
Yes, the industry goes up and the industry goes down. I remember for a brief flash in time, F9 pilots were being paid better than UAL narrowbody pilots. That was a short-lived anomaly. As I’ve said in previous posts, yes, all airlines have issues. F9 continues to struggle with BS Third World style issues while better airlines have First World issues.
TL/DR: Do NOW whatever it takes to get on with a high quality airline ASAP because you’ll appreciate the QOL this provides between age 30 and retirement MUCH more than the limited improvement you’ll see by taking the instant gratification of going to a less desirable ULCC today.
My humble opinion as a 50 year old, 2nd career, 14 year F9 guy. Take it (or leave it) for what it’s worth!
Without boring you with all the details, most of my bad decisions can be summed up by pointing out that I was chasing “quality of life” early in my career instead of attaining whatever the best airlines were looking for in terms of hiring criteria.
Things change and there’s no way to know *exactly* what the best airlines will want, but PIC and Education are constant themes. The more you have of both, the more options you’ll have.
Warning: Old Fart advice ahead... “Quality of life” will be more important to you 10 years from now than it is today. The platitude posters are mostly wrong when they say money can’t buy happiness. If you have a bunch of excess money, the annoyances of life can be mitigated. If your pay scale is high enough and you’re not working for a bottom feeder ULCC, you can afford to work less and spend more time at home even if you’re commuting. You won’t feel like your spouse has to work which will mean more quality time when you’re home. You can hire out more time consuming and undesireable tasks around the house.
Yes, the industry goes up and the industry goes down. I remember for a brief flash in time, F9 pilots were being paid better than UAL narrowbody pilots. That was a short-lived anomaly. As I’ve said in previous posts, yes, all airlines have issues. F9 continues to struggle with BS Third World style issues while better airlines have First World issues.
TL/DR: Do NOW whatever it takes to get on with a high quality airline ASAP because you’ll appreciate the QOL this provides between age 30 and retirement MUCH more than the limited improvement you’ll see by taking the instant gratification of going to a less desirable ULCC today.
My humble opinion as a 50 year old, 2nd career, 14 year F9 guy. Take it (or leave it) for what it’s worth!
#8460
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