NMB Rules Frontier is separate from RAH
03-31-2014 | 01:24 PM
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NMB Rules Frontier is separate from RAH
"The current investigation establishes that Frontier is operating as a
single transportation system for the craft or class of Pilots."
The only pilots allowed to vote in the upcoming representation election (if the NMB decides one is required) will be those pilots on Frontier property on December 15 2013, or 673 Frontier pilots.
The NMB has opened a 30 day window for an intervenor to obtain 51% showing of interest. Considering the fact that we applied to the NMB with approximately 95% of the Frontier pilots signing a FAPA card there will not be an intervenor.
Today is a GREAT day for F9 pilots. I sincerely wish everyone at RAH the best of luck. I hope the IBT eventually figures out how to bargain and represent pilots. Ive said it before and will say it one final time, you guys deserve better.
As for the Eischen new hire arbitration, the IBT litigation in Colorado District Court, and of course the IMSL..those issues will be solved in the near future.
single transportation system for the craft or class of Pilots."
The only pilots allowed to vote in the upcoming representation election (if the NMB decides one is required) will be those pilots on Frontier property on December 15 2013, or 673 Frontier pilots.
The NMB has opened a 30 day window for an intervenor to obtain 51% showing of interest. Considering the fact that we applied to the NMB with approximately 95% of the Frontier pilots signing a FAPA card there will not be an intervenor.
Today is a GREAT day for F9 pilots. I sincerely wish everyone at RAH the best of luck. I hope the IBT eventually figures out how to bargain and represent pilots. Ive said it before and will say it one final time, you guys deserve better.
As for the Eischen new hire arbitration, the IBT litigation in Colorado District Court, and of course the IMSL..those issues will be solved in the near future.
03-31-2014 | 01:39 PM
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I had Matthew F tell me that we were effed and we should have taken the IBT's offer. I laughed in his face then and laugh now. The pilots got the short end of the stick and had to pay for it.
Sorry line pilots at RAH. You picked the wrong horse and tried to rub our face in it.
Sincerely,
The Turtle
Sorry line pilots at RAH. You picked the wrong horse and tried to rub our face in it.
Sincerely,
The Turtle
03-31-2014 | 03:18 PM
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Outstanding!!! Thanks for the good news Zoo. Unfortunately, I sent an Objector Fee check in to the criminals (IBT) yesterday, #*&@.
Anyway, good luck to the pilots that choose to remain in the Republic family. You deserve better than the IBT. Also, good luck to those of you who can get the he!! out of there...in all sincerity.
Anyway, good luck to the pilots that choose to remain in the Republic family. You deserve better than the IBT. Also, good luck to those of you who can get the he!! out of there...in all sincerity.
03-31-2014 | 08:32 PM
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03-31-2014 | 09:22 PM
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Fortunately, Turner and Bourne, at the IBT Airline Division, were not successful in stealing our money, though they gave it their best try, so we have a decent amount of money in our accounts.
To be fair, both Turner and Bourne said (directly to me), "We don't want your money, you get to keep your money, we will just be the ones signing all the checks."
Like me saying to someone (someone I don't like and they don't like me), "I need your check book, I'll decide what bills I pay for you, but we'll let you keep your money in your account..."
It will be sweet to get our 1,200 hours a year of Flight Pay Loss back. Not only did IBT take control of that AND use none of it, they also included an assessment in our dues for their Flight Pay Loss.
Every RAH pilot has substantial grounds for a DFR suit over the way IBT handled the SLI, the Implementation Agreement (or lack thereof) and Contract negotiations. The IBT could not have mismanaged that entire process in a more detrimental manner for the Native RAH pilots if they intentionally trying to harm those pilots.
I'll go into detail over all of that some day...
Good luck RAH pilots, you deserve so much better than Bedford, Heller and the IBT. I hope for your sake you have a 95% turnout and a 80+% "No" vote on your TA on April 4.
I'll never understand why the same guy who Chaired negotiations on Contract 2003 was Chair on this Negotiation Committee or why he ultimately supported the Negotiation "Team's" TA.
And, for God's sake - Dubinsky??? I have never heard a Union Rep talk so poorly about their members. (I know that wasn't the Local's fault or choice)
I hope you can one day decert the IBT, they've earned it with you guys.
04-01-2014 | 04:26 AM
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After the IBT, probably even without the IBT experience, I will continue to support our in-house union - FAPA.
Fortunately, Turner and Bourne, at the IBT Airline Division, were not successful in stealing our money, though they gave it their best try, so we have a decent amount of money in our accounts.
To be fair, both Turner and Bourne said (directly to me), "We don't want your money, you get to keep your money, we will just be the ones signing all the checks."
Like me saying to someone (someone I don't like and they don't like me), "I need your check book, I'll decide what bills I pay for you, but we'll let you keep your money in your account..."
It will be sweet to get our 1,200 hours a year of Flight Pay Loss back. Not only did IBT take control of that AND use none of it, they also included an assessment in our dues for their Flight Pay Loss.
Every RAH pilot has substantial grounds for a DFR suit over the way IBT handled the SLI, the Implementation Agreement (or lack thereof) and Contract negotiations. The IBT could not have mismanaged that entire process in a more detrimental manner for the Native RAH pilots if they intentionally trying to harm those pilots.
I'll go into detail over all of that some day...
Good luck RAH pilots, you deserve so much better than Bedford, Heller and the IBT. I hope for your sake you have a 95% turnout and a 80+% "No" vote on your TA on April 4.
I'll never understand why the same guy who Chaired negotiations on Contract 2003 was Chair on this Negotiation Committee or why he ultimately supported the Negotiation "Team's" TA.
And, for God's sake - Dubinsky??? I have never heard a Union Rep talk so poorly about their members. (I know that wasn't the Local's fault or choice)
I hope you can one day decert the IBT, they've earned it with you guys.
Fortunately, Turner and Bourne, at the IBT Airline Division, were not successful in stealing our money, though they gave it their best try, so we have a decent amount of money in our accounts.
To be fair, both Turner and Bourne said (directly to me), "We don't want your money, you get to keep your money, we will just be the ones signing all the checks."
Like me saying to someone (someone I don't like and they don't like me), "I need your check book, I'll decide what bills I pay for you, but we'll let you keep your money in your account..."
It will be sweet to get our 1,200 hours a year of Flight Pay Loss back. Not only did IBT take control of that AND use none of it, they also included an assessment in our dues for their Flight Pay Loss.
Every RAH pilot has substantial grounds for a DFR suit over the way IBT handled the SLI, the Implementation Agreement (or lack thereof) and Contract negotiations. The IBT could not have mismanaged that entire process in a more detrimental manner for the Native RAH pilots if they intentionally trying to harm those pilots.
I'll go into detail over all of that some day...
Good luck RAH pilots, you deserve so much better than Bedford, Heller and the IBT. I hope for your sake you have a 95% turnout and a 80+% "No" vote on your TA on April 4.
I'll never understand why the same guy who Chaired negotiations on Contract 2003 was Chair on this Negotiation Committee or why he ultimately supported the Negotiation "Team's" TA.
And, for God's sake - Dubinsky??? I have never heard a Union Rep talk so poorly about their members. (I know that wasn't the Local's fault or choice)
I hope you can one day decert the IBT, they've earned it with you guys.
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