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Old 08-01-2017, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskey4 View Post
"Pilots already on property will need to do a Talent test first and possibly a small interview with a Spirit representative."

So, not a true flow then. More comparable to the Endeavor deal. Pass a test...pass some type of interview...and hope to be selected.
That's for pilots on property. New hires to GoJet do an interview to Spirits standards and are guaranteed a slot in two years with no further interview when they flow. Since pilots on property theoretically didn't do the special interview, they still have to do the assessment. No big deal. The assessment is pretty easy. I know some real interesting characters that work at Spirit (no offense intended) so I'm not completely sure what the purpose of the personality assessment is to be honest.
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Originally Posted by Ferlofodder View Post
That's for pilots on property. New hires to GoJet do an interview to Spirits standards and are guaranteed a slot in two years with no further interview when they flow. Since pilots on property theoretically didn't do the special interview, they still have to do the assessment. No big deal. The assessment is pretty easy. I know some real interesting characters that work at Spirit (no offense intended) so I'm not completely sure what the purpose of the personality assessment is to be honest.
so only people currently on property need to be a captain for a year?
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Old 08-01-2017, 07:18 PM
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Captain one year after upgrade, FO two years
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Old 08-01-2017, 07:28 PM
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You seem to forget that not that long ago Spirit pilots was one of the highest paid 320 pilots in the industry. Higher than United or US Air. Now it our time to get paid, you seem to make it sound like it's our fault that our pay is low compared to everyone else. I personally don't care who you work for or what you fly. I spent 8 years flying for the regionals myself so I know what it's like.
What are you smoking. NK has never been an industry leader in pay. Not even close. They may have had an hourly pay rate somewhere in the longevity scale that matched or was slightly higher than United or Delta but once you added soft pay, work rules, retirement, etc it wasn't even close. I have to laugh when some dude at NK tries to pull the whole " oh we use to be industry leaders" line. So is Allegiant an industry leader because their first year pay was higher than Southwest until SW newest contract was passed? Get real dude!!! NK has always been a second tier airline that's the facts jack.
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Old 08-01-2017, 07:57 PM
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What are you smoking. NK has never been an industry leader in pay. Not even close. They may have had an hourly pay rate somewhere in the longevity scale that matched or was slightly higher than United or Delta but once you added soft pay, work rules, retirement, etc it wasn't even close. I have to laugh when some dude at NK tries to pull the whole " oh we use to be industry leaders" line. So is Allegiant an industry leader because their first year pay was higher than Southwest until SW newest contract was passed? Get real dude!!! NK has always been a second tier airline that's the facts jack.
Did I say industry leading? Go back and read my post again. I compared Spirit to United and US Air at one time. This was 2012. See for yourself.

http://www.flyslipstream.com/Airline...apshot2012.pdf
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Old 08-01-2017, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferlofodder View Post
Yeah. Don't know if I could stomach $38 an hour first year pay at Spirit. Fo's at GoJet make a hell of a lot more than that with bonuses etc. Feeling kinda torn here. Live in Chicago, have degree and 1000's of hours PIC. Maybe I'll stick it out at G7.
It's mind boggling people think this way. Did you know that year 2 exist and year 10? You don't want to be that guy waiting for the legacy call 10-15 years later and still at the regional. Spirit will eventually get a raise like everybody else. The pay cut is the best guaranteed investment you can make since there is life beyond year 1 pay. I don't think you can make $200k+ at the regional.
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Old 08-01-2017, 08:08 PM
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It's mind boggling people think this way. Did you know that year 2 exist and year 10? You don't want to be that guy waiting for the legacy call 10-15 years later and still at the regional. Spirit will eventually get a raise like everybody else. The pay cut is the best guaranteed investment you can make since there is life beyond year 1 pay. I don't think you can make $200k+ at the regional.
I was that guy at one point. RJ CA making decent money, days off I wanted. Then I watch Delta parked 100+ RJ's in a short period of time. I get it, some people get comfortable, and don't want to move on until the legacies call.
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Originally Posted by Ferlofodder View Post
Yeah. Don't know if I could stomach $38 an hour first year pay at Spirit. Fo's at GoJet make a hell of a lot more than that with bonuses etc. Feeling kinda torn here. Live in Chicago, have degree and 1000's of hours PIC. Maybe I'll stick it out at G7.
Are you honestly picking Hulas over Spirit ?! Bwahahaha ha
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Are you honestly picking Hulas over Spirit ?! Bwahahaha ha
Take a 3-5 year pay cut and bottom out seniority to move to a ****ty ULCC sounds like a brilliant idea! It will take years to catch up.
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets View Post
I can't see DL and UA being to thrilled when delays/cancellations start to rack up due to lack of crew. Both are looking to get rid of RJs and GoJet is not big for either carrier. GoJet may have just put themselves out of business with this flow. But hey at least you will be at spirit.
I agree. Without thinking this through, GoJet has just signed their death warrant. Four years max, they will be gone.

Playing two ends with opposite objectives will end badly.
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