That's what people say about Lakes every year, there still flying. G7 will always be around because they are the cheapest fees out there. I love my short period of time here, but am glad I have moved on.

DH

 

Why would they be out of business because of a flow? If this helps them staff, which it probably will, United and Delta would be happy to keep them versus a carrier that can't staff.

Plus, 10 a year REALLY isn't that big of a deal.

 

10/month = about 120 of a 580 Pilot group each year.

 

After last night, your mummy is no longer welcome in my apartment.

 

Man! I am continuously impressed with how well G7 understands and leverages its place as a regional carrier to get its pilots moving on. Staff it up and clear it out. No, it's not a seven-year flow to a legacy as with AAG regionals. And no, it's not a guaranteed interview at a legacy that requires you to swear your allegnece and refuse flying your airline's routes for other code shares. Yes, for those who are excited that their dream job with a legacy is only a couple thousand PIC hours away, it does not make sense. But for those who don't want to have to depend on a legacy to decide their fate this is a great option. G7 is kind of a no brainer for new 121 pilots whose ambition is to get in and move up fast. Two years to a national carrier flying airbus? And if Spirit is not your cup of tea, you can still upgrade to CA in record time and work toward your other goals.

Spirit pilots. I recognize I do not understand all the intrecacies of your labor disputes, but looking at the numbers I can assure you the G7 pilots going your way are pilots who WANT to fly for Spirit. When contract negotiations come up, they'll be equally interested in a pilot-favorable contract.

 

Is this correct? 10 per month?

 

2 year flow is 580 Pilots / 2 years = 290 Pilots per year flowing.

My prediction is they will have difficulties staffing and maintaining a stable crewing without undue random flight cancellations for lack of crew.

When Delta and United see the results of a lot of random cancellations, they will be hesitant about renewing their contracts with GoJet.

My prediction. I own it and will take responsibility for it. Check back in 4 years.

 

I don't predict anything near 100% participation. Not many pilots will want to take a pay cut to sit right seat for an airline not on their radar. Also, this will be a huge ADDITIONAL recruiting tool to keep the airline staffed. Competitive pay, $12-15k new-hire bonus without signed commitment, record fast upgrade, and a two-year flow to a national carrier if you like...

 

Knowing G7, I guarantee you 2 years will turn into 4. You will sitting there ****ed that you took the job under a contract with many holes. What does it actually say ? Is it "up to" 10? Because that could be any number between 0 and 10. Now a days there is more dishonesty in the way coorporations do business. This is even more so when it relates to the way Gojet does business. If I were there I would leave as soon as I could, and if I were looking for my first 121 gig I would run away as far as I could from G7. New applicants should look at the overall picture. I know companies don't advertise everything so, I encourage you to use all the resources available today to reach out to current pilots at their respective companies and get the real scoop. Good luck !

 

I think it's a great deal for UA an DAL. They probably encouraged it. Flows only exist to keep a feeder airline staffed. More people will go to GoJet for the flow, therefore alleviating some staffing issues. And UA and DAL have no obligation to hire them. Unlike AA being told who their new pilots will be with no input.