It is worth noting that this is the first non-WO flow I've heard of.

Great Lakes has a flow to Frontier.

hahaha,
I stand corrected.

Cape Air has flow to Jet Blue.

Commutair sort of has a flow to UAL.

CPP is not a flow

Our MEC chair sent your union a letter, you should read it and take it seriously.

Wow. Fyp at spirit sucks. That's not entitlement that's making a good financial decision

If you have a family and training/student debt you might litterally starve or rack up tons more debt by coming to spirit. The mountains of premium pay and being released from trips with pay to cover other trips are the very small exception not the rule. It probably happens no more than most any other carrier these days.

When spirit had 20-30 planes it was operation normal and the only way to keep the planes flying so the pilots here (spirit) at that time kind of became dependent on it and used it as justification for the low pay. It somehow became urban legend. A small faction of senior spirit pilots that have not kept up with industry trends actually still think they are making a competitive wage because they agree to be Scheduling's gopher during their free time so the urban legend continues of unlimited premium pay while still getting 15+ days off. Never mind the fact that some of them will end up living off their kids in retirement because they have no idea what industry standard retirement really means when it comes to the millions of dollars difference between us and everyone else.

The pay rates multiplied by 72-80hrs a month is what to expect but only after OE. Until then it's $1500/mo with no insurance or flying benefits for 90 days. A month based in ACY could litterally cost you more than you make if you don't live there.

You may also hear stories about the incredible QOL and to be honest that is the one thing we have that is mostly industry standard with a couple items that are slightly above standard and many that are below. Again, more urban legend than reality and while not terrible like the compensation it's generally nothing that can't be achieved at a legacy or Southwest. The best thing as an airline pilot you can do for your QOL is live in base and it will override any good or bad work rules you may have. The thing is every one of our bases shares a domicile with at least one of the big 4. We might be a good option for folks in ACY or FLL that aren't already at an American owned regional because AA is taking very few civilian off the street pilots currently.

If you're young and single and can afford the pay I'd say maybe take a look at us but don't justify the pay. I did that when I started at a regional thinking I wouldn't stay long and at that time I was able to live on almost nothing. My older, established, family man self regretted that a decade later when I realized how much supporting a family actually costs. It's also very hard to have a working spouse and a couple of kids with our schedules. It can be done but adds a lot of strain to the marriage and family imo. You invested a lot of time, money, and effort to gain the skills you have today and there are airlines that are recognizing that with their compensation packages. Spirit is not at this time. If you come over we will welcome you with respect but just don't say your weren't warned.

Id also like to see the details of this agreement because we've been given none thus far.

What happens if you interview at gojet and they want you but spirit does not? Do you get hired anyway but no flow?

The interview for GoJet counts as the interview for Spirit for all new hires. So if you get a job offer from GoJet, you have a flow number to Spirit.