Thanks for the response, I probably should have been more specific. My understanding is that the interview process and standards will have to be made more stringent to meet spirit standards and may also involve a representative from them at the interview. Now we all know that gojet typically draws some of the lowest qualified applicants in the regional industry. So what I am asking is will gojet start rejecting those who do not meet the higher standards which will be most of their applicants. They cannot afford to do such a thing and stay in business. I believe this flow will have tons of red tape to prevent spirit from actually having to take many of these people. Thoughts.

I don't know where the "we all know g7 attracts the lowest qualified applicants" comment came from. Any guy with the minimum time can pretty much get a class date at and regional. And the training here isn't easy and not everybody makes it through.. I'd love to know who you work for.

So here we are. A month past the announcement and still no details on when or how this flow will be implemented. The recording I listened to said the flow would begin "immediately" so clearly GoJet and Spirit have a different definition of what that means.

I see for GoJet it means they immediately splash a big shiny yellow plane on their recruitment ads and claim they offer a pathway to a career airline, although they clearly have no idea how, or possibly no intention to,implement such a pathway.

Personally I dont feel many GoJet pilots are interested in a flow to Spirit (Maybe for a free type, but not as a positive career move) however I do feel the company should at least try to make it appear that they really intend to honor their promise, rather than just using it to lure young pilots into their windowless van.

What I heard from the former Director of Ops Steve Briner was something like, "We're no Skywest, most of the guys we hire, the other regionals wouldn't touch with a 10 foot poll, but we give them another chance and hire them. Of course not all of them can make it through training." He also said at the time that United wanted to do some kind of flow so and they wanted to know how many guys Gojet had under age 42. He sounded like Gojet didn't want United's flow. In his view hiring the bottom of the barrel was something to be proud of, everyone got a chance.

Just curious as to where you found this quoted? Sounds like BS

Did you get the memo for you you need to do to opt in ? They sent it a couple weeks back.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but here's how I understand it-

If you've been here at least 2 years total and at least a year past upgrade to captain (if you upgraded), then you are eligible to apply for the "flow". You can't have any failures in the past 2 years and only 2 failures in a life time. After a list is compiled of the pilots who are eligible and want to go to Spirit then they will select about 0-10 G7 pilots per month to go to Spirit. It sounds like it will be a few months before the program actually goes into effect. Niether GoJet Teamsters or Spirit ALPA have anything to do with it.

So, a lot of ifs and buts. Maybe it will be good. But knowing how disfunctional GoJets administration is I wouldn't hold my breath and be pleasantly surprised if it amounts to much. Another thing to consider is GoJet's failure rate in training. When I was going through about 60% of captains were failing and about 20% of the FOs. So it's a good chance you could pick up a failure or two at GoJet, thus making you ineligible (or maybe just wash out completely). Especially going in as a DEC I'd be very weary. There is a cabal of checkairmen who are totally against that program and are happy to cull the herd, so to speak. They're a minority, and I've heard one or two have left or are leaving, but it's something to weigh in the decision to come to GoJet. In short, I wouldn't base a decision about coming to G7 on a flow to Spirit. The risks out weigh the rewards. Get in...get out. Apply to Spirit directly and it would probably be quicker and easier.

This all will mesh super well with Spirits training. Spirit has the toughest training footprint of any major airline. 6 weeks start to finish, 4 sims and a checkride. I imagine the successful training rate at Spirit will rapidly decline as they flow guys who have already failed out of at least one other regional airline before landing in GoJet.

Betting on a "FLOW" in this career is like betting on weather to wear protection with that girl on ones MED overnight.
Also knowing people at both places ...WHY oh WHY would anyone pick a regional because of a "MAYBE, POSSIBLY ,ONE DAY" to Spirit. I have friends who are 6 th year captains clawing their way outta that place. I'm sure at many LCC you will find some who are not happy...I'm not...But I really no chit almost shot my iceT through my nose when I opened APC today seeing that add. To me it reads "Hay you don't like that job...come hate this one too". Plus with the group going through contract negotiations didn't the MEC of Spirit post a memo saying how bad it was.
I know of a guy in my crashpad who stayed at eagle for ten years as a FO waiting for that AA flow. Eagle sent all kinds of propaganda out going back to 2006 whenever hiring became a problem.
I know making 150k a year sounds like a lot of money. One nice car, a toy or two and boom you still have the same amount of money left over at the end of the month. And 15K signing bonus🙂 After taxes, divided by twelve..?
Pick a place for quality of life, work rules, RSV rules, equipment and time to upgrade. Figure out what works best for you.
I've said it before, EMB, CRJ, Boeing, Airbus all pretty much the same after a couple months in the chair.
At this point if B6 put a Airbus sticker on the lawnmower in MCO I would drive that everyday...with pay of course.
Rant over...

This industry is one huge scam operation. AMR, I guess now AAG has been dangling the flow carrot since the 90s. I can't remember which thread it was but someone posted something very accurate. He or she said the regionals are a massive c-scale operation with no light at the end of the tunnel for most people. If the career level airlines major or LCC really wanted you they would just go ahead and hire you there.