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Old 12-19-2018, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SlamClicker View Post
The 220 is mostly growth into markets the RJ can’t/won’t do, DL regional partners are still scoped - they may park the old comair 700s but something in the same market will replace them. That being said we are talking about a airline that operates 30+ year old airplanes because they are paid for.
I have flown almost every route announced for the a220 in a 7/9 (except NY flying). I think DL will largely replace the -200s they have now, in the last 6 years they have gone from what 300+ 50 seaters to 120. SKW just announced they will retire many of their 700s and replace them with 70 seat -900s (skw 700s are newer than the G7 planes). As for the 30 year old planes the md-80s are going away and the 757s do what 3-4 cycles a day vs the 6-8 the rj does.
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Old 12-19-2018, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying View Post
I have flown almost every route announced for the a220 in a 7/9 (except NY flying). I think DL will largely replace the -200s they have now, in the last 6 years they have gone from what 300+ 50 seaters to 120. SKW just announced they will retire many of their 700s and replace them with 70 seat -900s (skw 700s are newer than the G7 planes). As for the 30 year old planes the md-80s are going away and the 757s do what 3-4 cycles a day vs the 6-8 the rj does.
Where did you hear 00 was retiring 700’s?
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Old 12-19-2018, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by EDVPLT View Post
The 220 is replacing a lot of RJ flying. Look at the routes it is gonna be flying, all of them were run by 70-76 airplanes. They will use the 220 to further retiree the 50 seaters like what they did with the 717. I think all 70/76 seat flying will stay but the majority of 50 seaters will go away.
If you look at the Delta Investor presentation, they basically make it clear that the long term plan is somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 50 seaters. Where that gets confusing is, Delta doesn't include the OO At-Risk/EAS flying in the 50 seat scope numbers
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Old 12-19-2018, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Melit View Post
Where did you hear 00 was retiring 700’s?
They aren't. They are retiring 200s. 700s that are getting replaced by 900 lites are looking for a new home and were presumably going to fly on the American side, but the American 700s coming online having EV tail numbers. The last newsletter that came out said that the company is looking to place the Delta 700s (which are being replaced by 900 lites) somewhere.
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Old 12-20-2018, 10:51 AM
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OO has been taking the EV -700s from Delta ops and putting them in the AA system. AA likes the -700s because with 65 seats it less, they are classified as “small RJ’s” and are not limited in scope. The only way the United G7 -700s keep flying is if they fly for AA. United has plans to replace them and Delta doesn’t want them either.
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Old 12-20-2018, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Melit View Post
Where did you hear 00 was retiring 700’s?
when they announced the -900s mgmt told us these would be a 1 for 1 replacement of many of our DL -700s, that the 700s taken from the DL side would go to the AA side and we would lose 20 -200s to XJT for a no net gain of flying. not sure if the AA side will end up with them or just the EV planes. but I doubt skw will just let them sit.
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying View Post
when they announced the -900s mgmt told us these would be a 1 for 1 replacement of many of our DL -700s, that the 700s taken from the DL side would go to the AA side and we would lose 20 -200s to XJT for a no net gain of flying. not sure if the AA side will end up with them or just the EV planes. but I doubt skw will just let them sit.
So they are not being retired?
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Gojet doesn't have union representation, they are Teamsters.
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Old 12-20-2018, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 3400 View Post
OO has been taking the EV -700s from Delta ops and putting them in the AA system. AA likes the -700s because with 65 seats it less, they are classified as “small RJ’s” and are not limited in scope. The only way the United G7 -700s keep flying is if they fly for AA. United has plans to replace them and Delta doesn’t want them either.
Small RJ's are limited in scope at AA, they're just not at the limit yet. AA scope is large RJ's can't exceed 40% of the mainline narrow body fleet, and small RJ's are, IIRC, 80%.
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Old 12-21-2018, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying View Post
I have flown almost every route announced for the a220 in a 7/9 (except NY flying). I think DL will largely replace the -200s they have now, in the last 6 years they have gone from what 300+ 50 seaters to 120. SKW just announced they will retire many of their 700s and replace them with 70 seat -900s (skw 700s are newer than the G7 planes). As for the 30 year old planes the md-80s are going away and the 757s do what 3-4 cycles a day vs the 6-8 the rj does.
Those old Delta 700s are more than likely going to be painted for Eagle.
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