Gone Flying

its also possible the -700s will be parked. the comair planes gojet has are some of the oldest non -50 seaters in DL connection. DL is buying 75 A220s and they have said since the order that they are to replace rjs. why go through the hassle of moving planes when they can replace them that way. one way or another DL will probably park 75-100 rjs over the next 4 years ( unless something changes).

Bellanca

The ability to staff the leftover 'preferred' carriers is what is going to keep the ones on the chopping block open longer. No point in moving all the flying from one place to other if the planes are going to sit idle at the new airline as it struggles to staff it.

Delta may want to go down to three carriers, and united may like to axe a couple, too, but what they want may not be what they can realistically do.

I'd hope management at these majors would probably realize if they shut down one place, everyone won't all go running to skywest, endeavour, (whatever flavor of the month regional). They will lose people to LCCs, cargo, corporate gigs, and it may backfire... unless they are really ready to up the ante with some real incentives to make the leap $$$$. I could see them slowly winding down Gojet and others over time, but I can't see them pulling everything from one carrier at once...

ChecklistMonkey

They literally did that to ASA earlier this year.

Wynncore

Exactly. In fairness to the writer above, the ASA Delta CRJ draw down was completed over a twoish year period of time. First, with the announcement of the CRJ-200's being parked and then a year later with the announcement of the complete and total draw down of the Delta Connection contract that terminated earlier this month.

In re: to pilots not moving to another regional should G7 lose it's UAL and/or DAL contracts in 2019-2020: I'm sorry to say it but many pilots will absolutely will go where the airplanes go. Multiple Comair pilots came to G7 as street CA's after Comair went away and many XJT CRJ pilots went to 9E as soon as the announcement was made that the former ASA/XJT CRJ 700/900s would be placed with 9E. Staffing is not an issue...pilots will go where the jobs are open, after all, managements know that the overwhelming majority of pilots A: Have families to feed and bills to pay and B: Will do anything to stay current and competitive for that shot at landing the dream job.

What further compounds G7's problem is that the fleet is so small that it actually can be replaced in relative short order unlike the large fleet at ASA that had to be drawn down over a 24-30 month period of time due to its sheer size. I'm not rooting for GoJet's wind down or contract cancellation with Delta or United, that will affect a lot of people, I'm just saying that the negative impact to front line employees really isn't considered in the regional shell game.

GojetNoGo

Gojet has what, 25 planes at United and 30 at Delta? These are single contract size numbers but maybe they have the 15 contract and the 10 plane contract that they started with for United. The 25 United planes, they are gone, it is done, it is over. No winding down. They are at scope now and Express jet is taking 25 slots away from Gojet. United also has signed a contract with Skywest that the next 25 slots that open with scope will go to them. United getting rid of Gojet's 25 planes is not new, they announced it in 2014. United does not like the 700s. They gave Gojet a chance to move them to the Aspen flying but Gojet put into place someone who had no idea how to build a training program. He was a Navy enlisted fellow who got commissioned as a non pilot fligh officer (radar operator type of thing) who got out, flight instructed and got his first pilot job with Gojet. No experience or ability to put that together. No training program, no FAA approval, no Aspen contract.

Delta, good luck with that. I think they are tired of carriers with low quality products. They want quality over low price. Of course that goes back and forth every few years.

SlamClicker

The 220 is mostly growth into markets the RJ can’t/won’t do, DL regional partners are still scoped - they may park the old comair 700s but something in the same market will replace them. That being said we are talking about a airline that operates 30+ year old airplanes because they are paid for.

EDVPLT

The 220 is replacing a lot of RJ flying. Look at the routes it is gonna be flying, all of them were run by 70-76 airplanes. They will use the 220 to further retiree the 50 seaters like what they did with the 717. I think all 70/76 seat flying will stay but the majority of 50 seaters will go away.

da42pilot

You guys need to tell your ALPA reps to start talking to TSA/Compass ALPA about merging seniority lists. Just like what ASA and XJT ALPA did.... don’t waste time. Probably better than making a lateral move.

Flogger

TSA pilots would never allow it unless the quasi-scabs still at GOJETS were somehow dealt with.

Gone Flying

GoJet is not ALPA