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MoarAlpha 03-18-2020 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by STLPilotGod (Post 3002578)
I have a different opinion about focus.

I don't believe the main concern is the virus or what happens with that. I don't believe the big concern is 50 seaters versus 70 seaters versus scope. United has reasons to keep flying 50 seaters. 550s or 200s? A 200 costs about 300 per hour less per flight hour than a 550 on the lease payments, the 550 uses a little less gas I believe. Customers will like the 550 more. 300 per hour divided by 40 people is about 7.50 per passenger. Is that a big thing, you decide.

I believe the main concern every Gojet/Compass/(TSA pilot wondering where to go) pilot should have is, are the major airlines done doing business with the likes of HK? Delta is, it is over with Delta and they will never deal with TSH again. United is still working with TSH, but will it last? TSA told them, "we have no pilots, we can't fly the contract, it's your problem now." TSH has lots of pilots at Compass and not enough at TSA but can't move them? If I were United I'm be looking elsewhere because I could not rely on TSH. American?

TSH had big problems before the virus. The virus will just be making things happen quicker. Is TSH the place to be?

You are missing the whole point of adding 50-seaters though. They added the 550 because they couldn't add more 70-seaters due to scope and had the capacity to support a 50-seater at the time. now that load factors are dropping to nearly 0, they don't need the 'loophole' of the 550. I'm sorry, but Hulas is probably on the way out of the regional airline industry. Can you blame him?

STLPilotGod 03-18-2020 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by MoarAlpha (Post 3002704)
You are missing the whole point of adding 50-seaters though. They added the 550 because they couldn't add more 70-seaters due to scope and had the capacity to support a 50-seater at the time. now that load factors are dropping to nearly 0, they don't need the 'loophole' of the 550. I'm sorry, but Hulas is probably on the way out of the regional airline industry. Can you blame him?

I don't think that was the point that I was responding to, or possibly I did miss it. I understand that making the 700s 50 seaters exempts counting them against scope. But we are in the "GoJet Recruitment" thread and I think it is important for people evaluating where to go to consider the fact that 2 of Hulas' 3 airlines are going out of business right now. Gojet is having trouble getting pilots with an 80k bonus. When are they going to do what they did with TSA and tell United that they can't do the flying, "its your problem"? When is United going to realize the risk they face doing business with an airline that fires people when they get cancer or may actually need to use the health care they have been paying for? Bad publicity could cost them millions and the small amount of savings they get dealing with Gojet may not be worth it. Choose a reputable airline.

flyerforhire 03-22-2020 03:00 PM

I know that I am interested, and am close to submitting my application. I have 10 years of 121 experience, and have a CL-65 type. I don't know if that helps, but that is where I am. Would people from Trans States and Compass submit their applications to GoJet? Or, do you think that they would possibly look elsewhere?

As always, thank you for your input!

Papa Bear 03-22-2020 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by flyerforhire (Post 3007887)
I know that I am interested, and am close to submitting my application. I have 10 years of 121 experience, and have a CL-65 type. I don't know if that helps, but that is where I am. Would people from Trans States and Compass submit their applications to GoJet? Or, do you think that they would possibly look elsewhere?

As always, thank you for your input!

Hows the reading and comprehension?
very important pilot skill

paulhood 03-22-2020 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by flyerforhire (Post 3007887)
I know that I am interested, and am close to submitting my application. I have 10 years of 121 experience, and have a CL-65 type. I don't know if that helps, but that is where I am. Would people from Trans States and Compass submit their applications to GoJet? Or, do you think that they would possibly look elsewhere?

As always, thank you for your input!

GoJet new hire classes have been postponed UFN.

flyerforhire 03-23-2020 01:51 PM

Should I submit my application anyway right now, just to get my name in the hat for when hiring resumes? Thank you for your answer!

darkman62 03-23-2020 03:48 PM

But why? Have you not seen all of TSH holdings are dissolving in the wind? Are you buying a ticket on the titanic!

FollowMe 03-23-2020 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by darkman62 (Post 3009057)
But why? Have you not seen all of TSH holdings are dissolving in the wind? Are you buying a ticket on the titanic!

You mean TSA who has been flying on borrowed time since the AA birds went back to MQ? Or CPZ who had less than one year left on 20 MQ birds? GJT has a ten year deal and literally just signed a deal for 20 additional frames only weeks ago. Can this crisis get so bad that they have to walk away from it? Sure, but if it does literally NO ONE is safe at that point, on any list.

amcnd 03-23-2020 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by FollowMe (Post 3009093)
You mean TSA who has been flying on borrowed time since the AA birds went back to MQ? Or CPZ who had less than one year left on 20 MQ birds? GJT has a ten year deal and literally just signed a deal for 20 additional frames only weeks ago. Can this crisis get so bad that they have to walk away from it? Sure, but if it does literally NO ONE is safe at that point, on any list.

Only weeks ago we all thought we would be wide body captains in 10 years... Although i do think Gojet will survive this. But maybe not get the other 20...

StuckOnReserve 03-23-2020 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by FollowMe (Post 3009093)
GJT has a ten year deal and literally just signed a deal for 20 additional frames only weeks ago.

A 10 year CPA just means GJT has an agreement on how much they will get paid to fly the 550’s. That doesn’t mean their flying is guaranteed. No airline has that. United can pull the 550’s at any time. Just ask XJT who lost the 175’s one year into that CPA.


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