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MoarAlpha 03-23-2020 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by StuckOnReserve (Post 3009260)
A 10 year CPA just means GJT has an agreement on how much they will get paid to fly the 550’s. That doesn’t mean their flying is guaranteed. No airline has that. United can pull the 550’s at any time. Just ask XJT who lost the 175’s one year into that CPA.


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Those agreements don't mean ****.

Ask any XJT pilot how their Delta agreement was cancelled years before it expired.

DL31082 03-24-2020 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by MoarAlpha (Post 3009329)
Those agreements don't mean ****.

Ask any XJT pilot how their Delta agreement was cancelled years before it expired.

Thats not exactly how that happened at XJT. XJT still had a year or so on the contract and contacted Delta about renewing it. Delta told them they wouldn’t be renewing the contract. XJT management was also trying to get an new CPA with UAL but UAL wasn’t sure the XJT could staff the flying. XJT/SkyWest management negotiated winding down the Delta flying early so they could staff the UAL opportunity. Delta didn’t pull it early, XJT negotiated the wind down early so they could sign other opportunities.

STLPilotGod 03-25-2020 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by DL31082 (Post 3009523)
UAL wasn’t sure the XJT could staff the flying. XJT/SkyWest management negotiated winding down the Delta flying early so they could staff the UAL opportunity. Delta didn’t pull it early, XJT negotiated the wind down early so they could sign other opportunities.

UAL does not want a Gojet abandonment of the 550s like TSA did with the 145s. That's why UAL is moving some 550 flying to Skywest, so they have backup. It is relieving Gojet from having tp pay the large bonuses to get pilots.

With the temporary abundance of regional pilots they figured it was a good time to make the restructure.

BRJPilot 03-26-2020 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by STLPilotGod (Post 3012130)
That's why UAL is moving some 550 flying to Skywest, so they have backup.

Where are you getting that little nugget from?

Av8rPHX 03-26-2020 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by StuckOnReserve (Post 3009260)
A 10 year CPA just means GJT has an agreement on how much they will get paid to fly the 550’s. That doesn’t mean their flying is guaranteed. No airline has that. United can pull the 550’s at any time. Just ask XJT who lost the 175’s one year into that CPA.


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Force majeure can nullify any contracts that were signed previously. Perfect example is CPZ


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FollowMe 03-26-2020 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Av8rPHX (Post 3012695)
Force majeure can nullify any contracts that were signed previously. Perfect example is CPZ


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So what exactly did the termination language say? You must be pretty high up to have had first hand knowledge.

Beech Dude 03-27-2020 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by paulhood (Post 3008299)
GoJet new hire classes have been postponed UFN.

Little birdie I heard said classes in May.

paulhood 03-27-2020 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 3014168)
Little birdie I heard said classes in May.

I highly doubt that, even if a recruiter tells you that, it does not mean is going to happen, keep in mind that they were planning on senior pilots leaving, that is no longer happening, since all hiring at the majors has stopped. Also the company is asking for pay cuts and possible furloughs (the Covid bill might change that, but we do not know yet). Pilots on leave would have to return before new classes are started, currently leaves are being offered until June, so new hire classes maybe in August, if everything recovers well, nobody knows how long is going to take.

FollowMe 03-27-2020 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by paulhood (Post 3014550)
I highly doubt that, even if a recruiter tells you that, it does not mean is going to happen, keep in mind that they were planning on senior pilots leaving, that is no longer happening, since all hiring at the majors has stopped. Also the company is asking for pay cuts and possible furloughs (the Covid bill might change that, but we do not know yet). Pilots on leave would have to return before new classes are started, currently leaves are being offered until June, so new hire classes maybe in August, if everything recovers well, nobody knows how long is going to take.

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paulhood 03-27-2020 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by FollowMe (Post 3014573)

It means “Either some people leave on their own or we force some people to leave” LOL


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