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Old 08-09-2007 | 11:38 AM
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mowiepilot,

I'm with on on the fact that the management of companies like GoJets are the ones directly responsible for everything that is wrong with an alter ego airline. HOWEVER, when pilots willingly sign up to fly for those reduced rates, they're enabling that management to get away with it. It's not just a local problem, it affects all of us. The managements of all the other regional airlines use industry average pay rates to decide what they pay their pilots. Companies like GoJets bring that average down, and therefore indirectly bring the pay of every other airline down. The last thing we need is for our pay to go down even more. We're already severely underpaid.

So, I'm with you that all pilots need to stick together. However, the rest of the industry getting behind the "poor" GoJets pilots is not what I have in mind. I'm thinking more along the lines of the fact that all pilots need to refuse to work for a company that blatently dodged the agreement it made with its pilots by going behind their back to recruit SJS inflicted low-time pilots to do their jobs.

So yes, let's all stick together for the greater good.
Old 08-09-2007 | 12:03 PM
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So what I am getting is that GoJet would be a GREAT airline to work for if...

1) You had no soul or compassion for fellow pilots.
2) You only lived in domicile (no commuting or setting foot in another cockpit)
3) You never plan on leaving for the majors or any other regional.
4) You never plan on making friends within the airline/pilot community.

Am I hearing this right?






<----- FYI not applying to GoJets.
Old 08-09-2007 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by plasticpi
mowiepilot,

I'm with on on the fact that the management of companies like GoJets are the ones directly responsible for everything that is wrong with an alter ego airline. HOWEVER, when pilots willingly sign up to fly for those reduced rates, they're enabling that management to get away with it. It's not just a local problem, it affects all of us. The managements of all the other regional airlines use industry average pay rates to decide what they pay their pilots. Companies like GoJets bring that average down, and therefore indirectly bring the pay of every other airline down. The last thing we need is for our pay to go down even more. We're already severely underpaid.

So, I'm with you that all pilots need to stick together. However, the rest of the industry getting behind the "poor" GoJets pilots is not what I have in mind. I'm thinking more along the lines of the fact that all pilots need to refuse to work for a company that blatently dodged the agreement it made with its pilots by going behind their back to recruit SJS inflicted low-time pilots to do their jobs.

So yes, let's all stick together for the greater good.
Talk all the bowlshat you want....been with the company one year and getting 61.50 an hour along with block or better and 1.50 per diem....will clear 73000 dollars this year...cant whine and cry about that and where would I get more after being with a regional only one year.
Old 08-09-2007 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by magnum_man
Talk all the bowlshat you want....been with the company one year and getting 61.50 an hour along with block or better and 1.50 per diem....will clear 73000 dollars this year...cant whine and cry about that and where would I get more after being with a regional only one year.

Yeah! You don't need anybody else... you've got all that Gojet money. Who cares about right and wrong stepping all over the Trans States guys, stabbing them in the back, so what. Any of us would do the same thing for a price.

We've all got a price.

Yours is 61.50 an hour.

It would seem that most other pilots, not working at GoJets, have somewhat higher standards when it comes to selling thier integrity.



One more thing, when your CEO decides you guys are getting too expensive, and sets up an alter-ego to you, just exactly who do you expect to stand up for your jobs?
Old 08-09-2007 | 03:58 PM
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Yeah! You don't need anybody else... you've got all that Gojet money. Who cares about right and wrong stepping all over the Trans States guys, stabbing them in the back, so what. Any of us would do the same thing for a price.

We've all got a price.

Yours is 61.50 an hour.

It would seem that most other pilots, not working at GoJets, have somewhat higher standards when it comes to selling thier integrity.



One more thing, when your CEO decides you guys are getting too expensive, and sets up an alter-ego to you, just exactly who do you expect to stand up for your jobs?
Will be long gone by then.....just hired by Jet Blue just waiting on the class date.....most likely September...yeah hurt me real bad now with your comebacks.
Old 08-09-2007 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by magnum_man
Will be long gone by then.....just hired by Jet Blue just waiting on the class date.....most likely September...yeah hurt me real bad now with your comebacks.
This is awesome because JetBlue OWNS the future! Just ask GMan. In fact, I think ProfJoeVee and Velocipede finally submitted and are being fitted with their electric blue, cool pilot shirts now! Great career track - GoJets to JB - you will be the toast of all the Quiet Birdman meetings when you are old.
Old 08-09-2007 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by magnum_man
Will be long gone by then.....just hired by Jet Blue just waiting on the class date.....most likely September...yeah hurt me real bad now with your comebacks.
Nice job climbing up the knives stuck in your brothers' backs. Congratulations.
Old 08-09-2007 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by magnum_man
Will be long gone by then.....just hired by Jet Blue just waiting on the class date.....most likely September...yeah hurt me real bad now with your comebacks.


You are one of the few. What would you say if Jetblue started an alter-ego airline (larger airplane for a paycut and crappier/non-existant workrules) and as a result, you were furloughed as a result? Sound familiar? You will get yours one way or another.
Old 08-09-2007 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by magnum_man
Talk all the bowlshat you want....been with the company one year and getting 61.50 an hour along with block or better and 1.50 per diem....will clear 73000 dollars this year...cant whine and cry about that and where would I get more after being with a regional only one year.
You must have been with GJ from the start. In that case, congratulations on taking a job that pays less than the market rate for a 70 seat jet and a position that should have gone to any of the TSA pilots who waited their turn on the seniority list. "Where would you get more after being with a regional only one year"? NOWHERE. You're a scab. You chose to accept a job that management offered you in its attempt to circumvent TSA ALPA. You're just lucky that there are more and more pilots out there with no morals like you who won't hold you accountable for your actions.
Old 08-09-2007 | 05:17 PM
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Now that's great!
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