KAVU

I hope my choice of Trans States over GOjetz was a wise one!!!

propspin

If attrition picks up like it is supposed to any regional will be a good place in a year to 18 months

propspin

If GoJet gets 10 airplanes who gets the rest???

Red97Vette

ASA and SKYW

monster900

Gojet will get the rest first quarter of 2013.

Boomer

Who's on the hook for making payments on those planes for the four months they're sitting in CVG?

LateralFlyer

Let me remove all doubt. It was.

monster900

That's out of my job specs. I don't know. They're owned my DL. Gojet management doesn't really want the 900's because that'll be a different pay rate and i don't think Gojet management is ready to deal with that with all the growth.

But every aircraft changing certificates has to go thru heavy checks. takes about one week to do 2 aircrafts. (that's if they don't have 20+ MEL's, CDLs...etc..)

757golf

I'm in Vegas today and all the companies state they are going to hire this year and beyond? Except UPS

ShyGuy

Enough with the GoJet attacks. The real enemy isn't them. The industry is simply trying to re-adjust itself back to what regional outsource flying was SUPPOSE to be: cheap labor, where people come in, get their time, and move on. Regionals were never suppose to be a place where lifers would stop there, and push seniority to 20+ yrs for Captains and 10+ years for FOs. Comair's demise is coming from Delta, because it will not be feasible to have a 44 jet operation with the most senior regional pilot group in the country, flying the oldest CRJs in the country with the highest maintenance cost.

Some people think they're suppose to be rewarded for giving a career to a regional, well there's no reward. I remember when I showed up to class at 9E. Clive S walked in and told us to enjoy our time here, get our time, and move on in 5 years. He wasn't joking. That's what they want. Now, true, the economy tanked and hiring slowed, but it doesn't change the long term prospects at a regional.

EVERY regional today has grown at the expense of some other airline that was cutting its planes and pilots. Period. That is fact. At Pinnacle, the 1999 contract-for-CRJs was signed in and over 130 CRJs came in from 2000-2006, while NWA Boeing 727s, DC-9-10s/20s/30s disappeared altogether, along with many NWA pilot jobs. Similarly, Comair and ASA grew tons post 9/11, while Delta put over 1,000 pilots on the streets.

I don't blame GoJet pilots for where they are today. A significant number are United furloughees, who would love to go back to mainline. There are others from Champion, ATA, Aloha, etc, you know, places where ALPA failed to protect their jobs. Not to mention, GoJets was formed by a ruthless owner, in a battle he won against the TSA ALPA who tried to fight without any leverage. ALPA failed. Hulas wanted growth for a certain payrate, and TSA pilots didn't. You then must live with the consquences. This isn't the first time management has stepped around ALPA. Even Pinnacle was screwed when 9E Corp purchased a non-union airline as their driving model for growth, while shrinking (downgrading and displacing) union ALPA pilots at 9E.

Regionals are supposed to be cheap, with low longevity. The likes of Comair, Mesaba/Pinnacle have no place in the industry when you have the highest seniority pilots flying around for high costs. The Compasses and GoJets of the industry, newer regional airlines with very low longevity is where the growth will go. Let it be a lesson, espcially in the Delta Connection system. If you are a regional pilot in the DCI system, no matter what regional airline, you need to plan on moving on. Delta doesn't give a crap about your plans on being a regional lifer. They are going to give airplanes where it is cheapest.