BitterOHFO

I agree! Each of us will do whatever we have to do. Gojets is not the only game in town. The upgrade train will stop just like every other regional that has had a quick upgrade.

I would venture a guess and say they already have enough qualified FO's who are getting close to the captain mins. I need about 400 hrs for the 4500TT and I will not rot in the right seat at Gojets on reserve trying to get 400 hrs. Reserve flat out sucks. I am not gambling by going over there for $25/hr. Been back on reserve for a year and pushed to the bottom at Comair! Screw that again! I like my chances without Gojets! That's my story and I am sticking to it!

Silver02ex

That's true, for now. The pilots at Colgan in 07-08 said the exact same thing when the Q400 kept coming online. Look at the situation at Colgan now. Growth and upgrade will stop just like every regional. Some of these new guys have to decide if they want to be stuck at GJ as an FO or reserve CA when the upgrade time stop and Delta or United start moving airplanes around again.

gloopy

In so far as "you get what you pay for" I agree with you. DL hires trash operators and gets trash results, and only cares who is one penny per block hour cheaper so some middle manager can get their bonus check. VERY short sighted on their part, but typical of the garden variety no talent hack B school products of the day. That said, this isn't a DL problem. Everyone does it. DL isn't the only major to put the screws to a regional, take flying away from a quality operator and give them to a gutter level ponzi scheme that underbids itself or to even directly or indirectly shut one down. Every major that has ever played the regional game has played a part in that. To any extent your friends or family are going to boycott a major because of that, the net impact will be so close to zero no one will ever notice even if it did make a point, which it doesn't.

Like I said, I admire those who stand on principle. Even if you will never go to goJets, all I'm saying is "taking a break" on the unemployment benefits when you have other choices (or can pursue and network other choices but choose not to) is a huge mistake and will not serve you well in the long run. Regardless of goJets, I'mjust urging guys to manage their careers for their long term interest rather than cutting off their nose to spite someone else's face.

N2Core

I really like this paragraph... It's good.

jsled

new RJDC lawsuit needed to stop all of this.

meesq

I hear what you're saying. In the end, it makes a difference to me and that is all that matters. Besides, we all do know that a nickel obviously makes *some* difference to DAL, so they won't be getting any more of mine.

[/QUOTE] Like I said, I admire those who stand on principle. Even if you will never go to goJets, all I'm saying is "taking a break" on the unemployment benefits when you have other choices (or can pursue and network other choices but choose not to) is a huge mistake and will not serve you well in the long run. Regardless of goJets, I'mjust urging guys to manage their careers for their long term interest rather than cutting off their nose to spite someone else's face.[/QUOTE]

I haven't heard much talk about unemployment. In fact, quite the opposite. Lots of guys are out there looking for flying jobs and sending resumes out. Very few are looking forward to collecting unemployment, if they have to resort to that.

fly4michelle

No dreams----just reality.

Slats

There are literally thousands of pilots with thousands of hrs PIC both in jet/turboprop.... Don't think that because you have 1000hrs PIC that mainline job is yours...

Let me ask you something... You were at OO, left for corporate then went to 9E, I am presuming for that quick upgrade, right? How'd that workout? Now you went to GOJet chasing that quick upgrade again... Remember "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

fly4michelle

Never worked at 9E. 00 then fractional (loved it) and then furlough--then back to the world of regional flying at G7 and GOT that quick upgrade. Like I said earlier--not going to another regional and sit in the right seat for several years again if I can help it. True--- upgrades will eventually slow down at G7, but for now-- they are moving nicely. A regional is a regional is a regional--contract flying. 00 does not own 1 single route that they fly----just another contract carrier. Good luck.

Slats

40yrs of stability isn't luck-----its a reality.... Congrats with that quick upgrade along with the stain that comes with it...