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11-02-2014 | 03:58 AM
#1161
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2007
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One guy told me that he gave his 2 week notice. He flew his last trip and when he went to jumpseat home he had been taken out of CASS. No jumpseat, no flight privileges. He thinks they would rather not get the 2 weeks notice so they can save the 2 weeks of vacation pay. Impressive how they watch every penny.
11-02-2014 | 07:20 AM
#1162
Banned
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 432
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What's the staffing situation here? Are classes full?
11-06-2014 | 03:10 PM
#1163
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 323
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From: A320 CA
All the Delta (Comair/ASA) birds are single FMS. Delta offers meals during certain times of the day and length of the leg. United have meal boxes (crackers). GoJet considers taking a coke or water with you as theft. Some crew members (new) try to enforce that so be careful with taking a bottle of water to the Hotel (which do not provide free water) with you, you might get written up for theft and you may be looking at a life long sentence at as a GoJet Pilot.
Delta birds are pretty, but bent out of shape. Always will need lots of rudder and aileron trip to keep the flying straight. The United birds are newer, however the FO FMS always goes out (dark). This happens because it overheats and shuts down as a safety feature. It gets written up and deffered all the time, but never really fixed. All they do is reset the breaker.
All the GoJet birds' nose wheel shimmies like crazy during take off and landing. Its so bad that it feels like its going to fall off at some point. This gets written up all the time, but it must be a brain buster because it never gets fixed.
Double check your logbook after your captain. Many have flown with open write ups and missing registration. Fly that plane as if you were the captain. Don't be intimidated because you are a flight instructor who is now new to an airline. A plane is a plane, and the regs are the regs. Speak up and never assume anything. The moment you assume, just hit the timer because it will be only a matter of time before the hammer drops.
Know you GOM/SOP,,,believe it of not, some check airman think they are GOD and know it all. Your only defense is to know where to find the answer and show him/her in black and white. You don't even have to argue.
Every trip you fly it will be spent in the cockpit talking about the **** pay and other nonsense the Union isn't doing for the pilot group. Don't be that guy because guess what, you chose to be there and you can leave if you don't like it.
All the birds have paint chipping and dents everywhere. The first time you do your walk around just make sure nothing is leaking and parts are not on the tarmac LOL...sorry but its true.
Planes are pretty, they are bigger than the E145. You will be sitting higher up than your seminole. Cockpit its nice, lots of space I think. There is a cup holder but its a bit useless because the cup can't fit due to the stick shaker on/off switch being in the way. There will be a nice area for your flight kit. Don't buy a flight Kit with side bags because they wont fit. The carpets needs replacement. They keep duct taping it so people don't trip over them.
Make sure you are familiar with over wing refueling procedures. You will be doing them a lot!! No you cannot gravity fuel the center tank! Yes this was actually done! They somehow pulled the fairing out or GOD knows what and managed to do it!. Know your fuel imbalance limits because your cross flow pump will become inop and or differed!!! PLEASE do NOT taxi around the airport in circles with your GRAVITY CROSS FLOW OPEN to try and even it out that way....YES IT WAS DONE! If you have an inop CROSS FLOW PUMP remind the captain that the APU draws from the left collector tank, and to taxi out with both engines running or alternate LOL.
The most important of all if you get into an imbalance situation in the air and get to the QRH part where it says to consider a side slip: PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS! Swept back wing in thin air slipping is NUTS: and yes somebody actually suggested this during a recurrent scenario discussion!!!!
Please PEOPLE, all I ask is to use your head and remember that your captain needs your help too! There is a reason for the type requiring two pilots to fly it. Even though you are on the right seat, act is if you were the captain. This doesn't mean telling anybody what to do, this just means double and triple check everything and make suggestions. If something doesn't look safe, you can walk away. The plane will not go anywhere with just the captain at the wheel.
Delta birds are pretty, but bent out of shape. Always will need lots of rudder and aileron trip to keep the flying straight. The United birds are newer, however the FO FMS always goes out (dark). This happens because it overheats and shuts down as a safety feature. It gets written up and deffered all the time, but never really fixed. All they do is reset the breaker.
All the GoJet birds' nose wheel shimmies like crazy during take off and landing. Its so bad that it feels like its going to fall off at some point. This gets written up all the time, but it must be a brain buster because it never gets fixed.
Double check your logbook after your captain. Many have flown with open write ups and missing registration. Fly that plane as if you were the captain. Don't be intimidated because you are a flight instructor who is now new to an airline. A plane is a plane, and the regs are the regs. Speak up and never assume anything. The moment you assume, just hit the timer because it will be only a matter of time before the hammer drops.
Know you GOM/SOP,,,believe it of not, some check airman think they are GOD and know it all. Your only defense is to know where to find the answer and show him/her in black and white. You don't even have to argue.
Every trip you fly it will be spent in the cockpit talking about the **** pay and other nonsense the Union isn't doing for the pilot group. Don't be that guy because guess what, you chose to be there and you can leave if you don't like it.
All the birds have paint chipping and dents everywhere. The first time you do your walk around just make sure nothing is leaking and parts are not on the tarmac LOL...sorry but its true.
Planes are pretty, they are bigger than the E145. You will be sitting higher up than your seminole. Cockpit its nice, lots of space I think. There is a cup holder but its a bit useless because the cup can't fit due to the stick shaker on/off switch being in the way. There will be a nice area for your flight kit. Don't buy a flight Kit with side bags because they wont fit. The carpets needs replacement. They keep duct taping it so people don't trip over them.
Make sure you are familiar with over wing refueling procedures. You will be doing them a lot!! No you cannot gravity fuel the center tank! Yes this was actually done! They somehow pulled the fairing out or GOD knows what and managed to do it!. Know your fuel imbalance limits because your cross flow pump will become inop and or differed!!! PLEASE do NOT taxi around the airport in circles with your GRAVITY CROSS FLOW OPEN to try and even it out that way....YES IT WAS DONE! If you have an inop CROSS FLOW PUMP remind the captain that the APU draws from the left collector tank, and to taxi out with both engines running or alternate LOL.
The most important of all if you get into an imbalance situation in the air and get to the QRH part where it says to consider a side slip: PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS! Swept back wing in thin air slipping is NUTS: and yes somebody actually suggested this during a recurrent scenario discussion!!!!
Please PEOPLE, all I ask is to use your head and remember that your captain needs your help too! There is a reason for the type requiring two pilots to fly it. Even though you are on the right seat, act is if you were the captain. This doesn't mean telling anybody what to do, this just means double and triple check everything and make suggestions. If something doesn't look safe, you can walk away. The plane will not go anywhere with just the captain at the wheel.
11-06-2014 | 03:22 PM
#1164
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 323
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From: A320 CA
Yup, and if anyone called in sick the same year as your vacation time and left GoJet before taking your vacation, they will NOT pay you the vacation time. YES EVEN McDonalds pays you the vacation time you are earned if you leave without using it. NO GoJEt will not pay you the vacation you have earned if you leave before using it.
I flew my last trip however...
The night before you start your new job...IMO...an overnighted FEDEX box with company materials sent to the DeathStar.
11-06-2014 | 03:53 PM
#1165
Banned
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 432
Likes: 0
Two classes a month in 2015. Any new flying? Or just a extreme need for pilots?
11-07-2014 | 05:27 AM
#1167
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 123
Likes: 0
One guy told me that he gave his 2 week notice. He flew his last trip and when he went to jumpseat home he had been taken out of CASS. No jumpseat, no flight privileges. He thinks they would rather not get the 2 weeks notice so they can save the 2 weeks of vacation pay. Impressive how they watch every penny.
Here is when I put two and two together...If they were not willing to even meet the national standard when issuing CASS access, and did not trust their pilots to leave and come back on time during the holidays, then why would they honor your CASS privilege when it would be time to leave?
I put in my two weeks and stayed home. I mailed everything and didn't have to worry about getting stranded. Business ethics there is non existent. I cannot stress that enough. Do not go there expecting anything other than to be paid for what you fly and nothing in between. There are plenty other companies hiring that have career progression and treat their employees better.
11-07-2014 | 05:52 AM
#1168
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 596
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I speak the truth about the GoJet work place, despite anything other than bashing being wildly unpopular on this forum.
The info about being taken out of CASS is accurate. The old CP used to take guys out of CASS during a three day stretch of mil leave.
The vacation pay when leaving is inaccurate though. A sick call during your last month will more than likely result in your not getting it paid out, however. Your last check might have health insurance deducted also. Watch closely.
I got my vacation pay though.
The info about being taken out of CASS is accurate. The old CP used to take guys out of CASS during a three day stretch of mil leave.
The vacation pay when leaving is inaccurate though. A sick call during your last month will more than likely result in your not getting it paid out, however. Your last check might have health insurance deducted also. Watch closely.
I got my vacation pay though.
11-07-2014 | 09:28 AM
#1169
On Reserve
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
From: A320
I can believe this 100%. Luckily I put two and two together and avoided the issue. The fact is that when you are hired at GoJet, they do not put you on CASS right away like every other airline does. So, if you are in class during the holidays, you can't count of the FLT Deck seat. You can jump seat Cabin only.
Here is when I put two and two together...If they were not willing to even meet the national standard when issuing CASS access, and did not trust their pilots to leave and come back on time during the holidays, then why would they honor your CASS privilege when it would be time to leave?
I put in my two weeks and stayed home. I mailed everything and didn't have to worry about getting stranded. Business ethics there is non existent. I cannot stress that enough. Do not go there expecting anything other than to be paid for what you fly and nothing in between. There are plenty other companies hiring that have career progression and treat their employees better.
Here is when I put two and two together...If they were not willing to even meet the national standard when issuing CASS access, and did not trust their pilots to leave and come back on time during the holidays, then why would they honor your CASS privilege when it would be time to leave?
I put in my two weeks and stayed home. I mailed everything and didn't have to worry about getting stranded. Business ethics there is non existent. I cannot stress that enough. Do not go there expecting anything other than to be paid for what you fly and nothing in between. There are plenty other companies hiring that have career progression and treat their employees better.
11-07-2014 | 06:24 PM
#1170
Line Holder
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
From: Being a "Retard" at 20 feet.
Ya, I can tell anyone wishing to resign exactly what my experience was:
1. Was never taken out of CASS. Had no problem getting home and everything went well there.
2. Earned vacation pay will be paid to you provided; A) you give at least a FULL 2 weeks notice and B) You do not call in sick during those two weeks. The thinking on the latter is that the company requires you to use vacation instead of sick pay if you do.
3. The one big thing for me was that I had to fight multiple times to get it all straightened out. Meaning, I had to send emails after each paycheck after I left to get it right. Not a huge deal as they fixed them for me, but just watch out to make sure. They were actually all very nice and made sure they got it right in the end. It just took two extra paychecks to do it. Had one problem with my hourly rate and the second was my missing vaca pay.
All and all, not a big problem for me. I left on good terms and the CP (newest one that I know of right now), base manager, and payroll manager were all very nice and helped me through the whole thing. I am not a pro-regional anything, I am just telling you exactly my experience. Yes, I left months ago and haven't looked back. Just kind of funny, because I found these posts and at least wanted to get what I have seen out there..... Easy for me to say now though..... I am at my dream job and couldn't be happier...... Good luck to all!
1. Was never taken out of CASS. Had no problem getting home and everything went well there.
2. Earned vacation pay will be paid to you provided; A) you give at least a FULL 2 weeks notice and B) You do not call in sick during those two weeks. The thinking on the latter is that the company requires you to use vacation instead of sick pay if you do.
3. The one big thing for me was that I had to fight multiple times to get it all straightened out. Meaning, I had to send emails after each paycheck after I left to get it right. Not a huge deal as they fixed them for me, but just watch out to make sure. They were actually all very nice and made sure they got it right in the end. It just took two extra paychecks to do it. Had one problem with my hourly rate and the second was my missing vaca pay.
All and all, not a big problem for me. I left on good terms and the CP (newest one that I know of right now), base manager, and payroll manager were all very nice and helped me through the whole thing. I am not a pro-regional anything, I am just telling you exactly my experience. Yes, I left months ago and haven't looked back. Just kind of funny, because I found these posts and at least wanted to get what I have seen out there..... Easy for me to say now though..... I am at my dream job and couldn't be happier...... Good luck to all!
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