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Cyborgmudhen 02-11-2014 04:21 AM


Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 1578801)
It's confirmed.

It is being billed as a confluence of instructor movement, catching up with training, and anticipated summer flying....at least to our current class.

8hourrule 02-11-2014 05:57 AM

GoJet updates
 
We lost a few instructors to PSA. Comair guys that were offered positions back in CVG. I also hear that one of the two STL sims is about to go down for a "heavy" check. Who knows.

8hourrule 02-11-2014 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 1578823)
Quote:





Originally Posted by 8hourrule


Sorry to the guys that have PMed me. The app crashes every time I hit reply. Any idea on a fix?




Use the web?

That's not a fix. That's a patch. You work in mx? Ha!!! Next time I am around a computer with the internets I will answer you guys.

TallFlyer 02-11-2014 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by Cyborgmudhen (Post 1578824)
It is being billed as a confluence of instructor movement, catching up with training, and anticipated summer flying....at least to our current class.

I was told not enough attrition.


Originally Posted by 8hourrule (Post 1578879)
That's not a fix. That's a patch. You work in mx? Ha!!! Next time I am around a computer with the internets I will answer you guys.

Nope, not in mx. For what it's worth I use the APC app a lot and it def has glitches, but Tapatalk would be a lot better option. Too bad APC doesn't support it.

TallFlyer 02-11-2014 07:48 AM

GoJet updates
 
I'm familiar with the United Benefits, but if you're single can you have an "enrolled friend" or equivalent on the Delta benefits?

spaaks 02-11-2014 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by sevenforseven (Post 1576681)
And to think the entire time I thought the race to the bottom started with offering 250 hour pilots who would work for peanuts an FO position on that Super Shiny Jet. I had never considered that it was all GoJet's fault.

The things you learn here!


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 1576705)
Wasn't it was started the first time that a larger airline paid for a smaller airline to fly routes/planes/people for them (outsourcing)?


Originally Posted by sevenforseven (Post 1576762)
Yes most certainly. That and GoJet and ONLY GoJet have destroyed this industry.

I didn't say gojet was the ONLY, I said they were 'one of' if not the first. Great mistakes, Gulfstream intnl...etc. were always the bottom feeders of the regionals (probably weren't that much of a threat to the larger, jet regionals though), but gojet was one of if not the first regionals (flying rj's) that showed managements that pilot groups were willing to stab each other in the back for their own benefit. And, they learned to use that against us. Where do you think managements got the idea that dangling new planes and quick upgrades in front of pilots in exchange for less would actually work? I'm not a regional airline history expert, but I don't know of any other companies where this happened (around the same time) before gojet did it, do you?

Does anyone know when the "rate reset" started to appear in regionals' contracts with majors? I suspect it was around the time of gojet's creation

USMCFLYR 02-11-2014 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by spaaks (Post 1579097)
I didn't say gojet was the ONLY, I said they were 'one of' if not the first. Great mistakes, Gulfstream intnl...etc. were always the bottom feeders of the regionals (probably weren't that much of a threat to the larger, jet regionals though), but gojet was one of if not the first regionals (flying rj's) that showed managements that pilot groups were willing to stab each other in the back for their own benefit.

And this is what I was questioning.
GoJet certainly wasn't one of the first regional jet operators around was it? As soon as the big partners decided to outsource their flying, I'll bet that multiple airlines came in with ever decreasing cost structures to win the contracts. But I'm no airline industry historian. I'm sure someone will be along to regale us with at least one version of history sure to answer all questions. :) Hey - isn't there a book out there called 'Flying the Line I/II' that probably lays this all out?

Flying the Line: The First Half Century of the Air Line Pilots Association: George E. Hopkins: 9780960970810: Amazon.com: Books

Flying the Line, Vol. 2: The Line Pilot in Crisis: ALPA Battles Airline Deregulation and Other Forces: George E. Hopkins: 9780960970834: Amazon.com: Books

This volume explores in great depth the Association's history from that time through the incumbency of Capt. Henry A. Duffy and the assumption of the ALPA presidency by Capt. Randolph Babbitt. It takes the reader behind the scenes of the political battles that were fought internally and presents a rare, uninhibited evaluation of the motives, emotions, and personalities involved in the traumatic issues that threatened to destroy the organization. This is a study of crisis and effect and contains priceless lessons that can be learned from past mistakes and successes. The book illustrates the lasting truth of the author's statement that "no victory ever stays won" and should be an incentive for members to get involved in the internal affairs of their union and use the experience of the past as preparation for the future.
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Dejavu 02-11-2014 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 1579143)
And this is what I was questioning.
GoJet certainly wasn't one of the first regional jet operators around was it? As soon as the big partners decided to outsource their flying, I'll bet that multiple airlines came in with ever decreasing cost structures to win the contracts. But I'm no airline industry historian. I'm sure someone will be along to regale us with at least one version of history sure to answer all questions. :) Hey - isn't there a book out there called 'Flying the Line I/II' that probably lays this all out?

Flying the Line: The First Half Century of the Air Line Pilots Association: George E. Hopkins: 9780960970810: Amazon.com: Books

Flying the Line, Vol. 2: The Line Pilot in Crisis: ALPA Battles Airline Deregulation and Other Forces: George E. Hopkins: 9780960970834: Amazon.com: Books

Only $4 used! BARGIN!

Got a free one when I joined eagle lol

pnwchief22 02-11-2014 07:44 PM

89 days?
 

Originally Posted by Cyborgmudhen (Post 1578824)
It is being billed as a confluence of instructor movement, catching up with training, and anticipated summer flying....at least to our current class.

Are they keeping to the 89 day plan for your class?

TallFlyer 02-14-2014 10:13 AM

I hope the Union negotiators keep in mind the rumored gains of the RAH TA that's supposedly just been released. Someone posted some bullet points on an other forum.


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