GoJet about to get whipsawed by Pinnacle
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From: Port Bus
Prior to DL purchase...yes. Now, no way. Pinnacle has a bright future from my perspective. Pinnacle is now cheap.
Pinnacle had one of the most senior pilot groups out there, equating to some of the highest operating costs with the old contract. Now costs are under control with the current contract in place.
Other regional airlines with senior pilot groups will suffer the same fate from there main line partners as Pinnacle has.
Pinnacle had one of the most senior pilot groups out there, equating to some of the highest operating costs with the old contract. Now costs are under control with the current contract in place.
Other regional airlines with senior pilot groups will suffer the same fate from there main line partners as Pinnacle has.
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Yeah I don't think it's fair to blame pilot seniority for all of PNCL's problems. The company was a mismanaged mess. And while there may be some small solace in gjet losing airplanes, constantly lowering the bar isn't anything to get excited about either.
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Is GoJets air service agreement up soon? I've been hearing Pinnacle will be going after those CRJ 700's. this will be funny. An airline is created, when there is no demand for it, to under cut and then they get under cut themselves.
CHQ tried it and paid hefty penalties. The whipsawing was just an added side benefit.
So, you guys can stop blaming your fellow regional pilots, and start blaming the APA... After all, it was just us limiting the size of your guppy killers that caused it. So blame us and move on, enough already.
#38
Each time, Comair submitted bids (as directed by Delta) to retain the flying.
Each time, Delta (supposedly) considered those bids.
Each time, Delta said "Allllllllmost, but not quite... You're too expensive"
Each time, Delta awarded RFPs to other regionals.
I know it's all f'd up, but that's how Delta does business. From 2004 until the end, Comair pilots voted in three concessionary contracts to stop the bleeding. Each time, Delta promised us (or the judge) that it would be enough to stop the bleeding. Each time, Delta would have a change of heart after the contract was signed and planes still left the property.
It didn't make sense and it wasn't logical. Most of us hung around till the end hoping common sense would kick in. Don't rely on logic trying to figure out DCI musical chairs when Delta is running the game.
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From: ELACS, FACs and SECs. Who doesn't love 'em?
ShyGuy, remember Comair? In 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, and 2011, Delta put out RFPs for Comair flying (or should I say Delta flying that was being performed by Comair).
Each time, Comair submitted bids (as directed by Delta) to retain the flying.
Each time, Delta (supposedly) considered those bids.
Each time, Delta said "Allllllllmost, but not quite... You're too expensive"
Each time, Delta awarded RFPs to other regionals.
I know it's all f'd up, but that's how Delta does business. From 2004 until the end, Comair pilots voted in three concessionary contracts to stop the bleeding. Each time, Delta promised us (or the judge) that it would be enough to stop the bleeding. Each time, Delta would have a change of heart after the contract was signed and planes still left the property.
It didn't make sense and it wasn't logical. Most of us hung around till the end hoping common sense would kick in. Don't rely on logic trying to figure out DCI musical chairs when Delta is running the game.
Each time, Comair submitted bids (as directed by Delta) to retain the flying.
Each time, Delta (supposedly) considered those bids.
Each time, Delta said "Allllllllmost, but not quite... You're too expensive"
Each time, Delta awarded RFPs to other regionals.
I know it's all f'd up, but that's how Delta does business. From 2004 until the end, Comair pilots voted in three concessionary contracts to stop the bleeding. Each time, Delta promised us (or the judge) that it would be enough to stop the bleeding. Each time, Delta would have a change of heart after the contract was signed and planes still left the property.
It didn't make sense and it wasn't logical. Most of us hung around till the end hoping common sense would kick in. Don't rely on logic trying to figure out DCI musical chairs when Delta is running the game.
#40
Mesa (only 4 200s in HI)
Pinnacle
PSA
SkyWest
Airlines not operating both variants:
American Eagle
GoJet
Air Wisconsin
Airlines with separate 200 and 700/900 categories:
ExpressJet (L-ASA)
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but who is left besides ExpressJet (L-ASA) that is actually operating CRJ-200 as a separate category?
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