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CrakPipeOvrheat 04-20-2013 04:28 PM

GoJet about to get whipsawed by Pinnacle
 
Is GoJets air service agreement up soon? I've been hearing Pinnacle will be going after those CRJ 700's. this will be funny. An airline is created, when there is no demand for it, to under cut and then they get under cut themselves.

Flitestar 04-20-2013 04:37 PM

Pinnacle ain't doing squat.

You mean Delta...

TBucket 04-20-2013 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat (Post 1395221)
Is GoJets air service agreement up soon? I've been hearing Pinnacle will be going after those CRJ 700's. this will be funny. An airline is created, when there is no demand for it, to under cut and then they get under cut themselves.


I've said it before and I'll say it again. Couldn't happen to a more deserving group of guys.

FlyingKat 04-20-2013 05:05 PM

Hate to tell you this, but even with the new contract Pinnacle's pilot costs are still higher than Gojet.

CAPTAINPCL 04-20-2013 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat (Post 1395221)
Is GoJets air service agreement up soon? I've been hearing Pinnacle will be going after those CRJ 700's. this will be funny. An airline is created, when there is no demand for it, to under cut and then they get under cut themselves.

It is true that Pinnacle has bid on an RFP for CRJ 700s, beyond that its pure speculation and rumors.

ShyGuy 04-20-2013 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by CAPTAINPCL (Post 1395231)
It is true that Pinnacle has bid on an RFP for CRJ 700s, beyond that its pure speculation and rumors.

How does that make sense? By definition, a request for proposal is put out by the mainline that needs its regional service covered. Delta "owns" 9E now. So how can 9E put a bid in? And if it can, wouldn't Delta know right away if 9E will get the flying or not?

And as Flying Kat pointed out, costs of the 9E employee groups are higher than the G7 group.

afterburn81 04-20-2013 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 1395229)
Hate to tell you this, but even with the new contract Pinnacle's pilot costs are still higher than Gojet.

Cost are always the number 1 priority. However, "control" is like .4567 in priority. Delta likes control.

CAPTAINPCL 04-20-2013 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1395234)
How does that make sense? By definition, a request for proposal is put out by the mainline that needs its regional service covered. Delta "owns" 9E now. So how can 9E put a bid in? And if it can, wouldn't Delta know right away if 9E will get the flying or not?

And as Flying Kat pointed out, costs of the 9E employee groups are higher than the G7 group.

It doesn't make sense, I agree.

FlyingKat 04-20-2013 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by afterburn81 (Post 1395235)
Cost are always the number 1 priority. However, "control" is like .4567 in priority. Delta likes control.


Not arguing that point, just that 9E is cheaper than Gojet. The reality is the pointy headed accountants and their magical spreadsheets in the crystal palace in ATL control all this, and will make their decision based on what makes Mother Delta the most money.....:cool:

legend 04-20-2013 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by CAPTAINPCL (Post 1395231)
It is true that Pinnacle has bid on an RFP for CRJ 700s, beyond that its pure speculation and rumors.

We were told in Recurrent that we were bidding on 32 700's. Still a seperate company but name change coming.


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