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Originally Posted by What
(Post 1395364)
They are the same type rating!
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Originally Posted by DL31082
(Post 1395425)
So is the -200 but most carriers fly the -200 separate from the -700/-900.
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Originally Posted by Will
(Post 1395347)
I thought PCL was going to get shut down?
Pinnacle had one of the most senior pilot groups out there, equating to some of the highest operating costs with the old contract. Now costs are under control with the current contract in place. Other regional airlines with senior pilot groups will suffer the same fate from there main line partners as Pinnacle has. |
Originally Posted by Pogey Bait
(Post 1395440)
Other regional airlines with senior pilot groups will suffer the same fate from there main line partners as Pinnacle has. |
Yeah I don't think it's fair to blame pilot seniority for all of PNCL's problems. The company was a mismanaged mess. And while there may be some small solace in gjet losing airplanes, constantly lowering the bar isn't anything to get excited about either.
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Is GoJets air service agreement up soon? I've been hearing Pinnacle will be going after those CRJ 700's. this will be funny. An airline is created, when there is no demand for it, to under cut and then they get under cut themselves. CHQ tried it and paid hefty penalties. The whipsawing was just an added side benefit. So, you guys can stop blaming your fellow regional pilots, and start blaming the APA... After all, it was just us limiting the size of your guppy killers that caused it. So blame us and move on, enough already. |
Originally Posted by Red97Vette
(Post 1395351)
..... 'respectable' regionals...
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 1395234)
How does that make sense? By definition, a request for proposal is put out by the mainline that needs its regional service covered. Delta "owns" 9E now. So how can 9E put a bid in? And if it can, wouldn't Delta know right away if 9E will get the flying or not?
Each time, Comair submitted bids (as directed by Delta) to retain the flying. Each time, Delta (supposedly) considered those bids. Each time, Delta said "Allllllllmost, but not quite... You're too expensive" Each time, Delta awarded RFPs to other regionals. I know it's all f'd up, but that's how Delta does business. From 2004 until the end, Comair pilots voted in three concessionary contracts to stop the bleeding. Each time, Delta promised us (or the judge) that it would be enough to stop the bleeding. Each time, Delta would have a change of heart after the contract was signed and planes still left the property. It didn't make sense and it wasn't logical. Most of us hung around till the end hoping common sense would kick in. Don't rely on logic trying to figure out DCI musical chairs when Delta is running the game. |
Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 1395496)
ShyGuy, remember Comair? In 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, and 2011, Delta put out RFPs for Comair flying (or should I say Delta flying that was being performed by Comair).
Each time, Comair submitted bids (as directed by Delta) to retain the flying. Each time, Delta (supposedly) considered those bids. Each time, Delta said "Allllllllmost, but not quite... You're too expensive" Each time, Delta awarded RFPs to other regionals. I know it's all f'd up, but that's how Delta does business. From 2004 until the end, Comair pilots voted in three concessionary contracts to stop the bleeding. Each time, Delta promised us (or the judge) that it would be enough to stop the bleeding. Each time, Delta would have a change of heart after the contract was signed and planes still left the property. It didn't make sense and it wasn't logical. Most of us hung around till the end hoping common sense would kick in. Don't rely on logic trying to figure out DCI musical chairs when Delta is running the game. |
Originally Posted by DL31082
(Post 1395425)
So is the -200 but most carriers fly the -200 separate from the -700/-900.
Mesa (only 4 200s in HI) Pinnacle PSA SkyWest Airlines not operating both variants: American Eagle GoJet Air Wisconsin Airlines with separate 200 and 700/900 categories: ExpressJet (L-ASA) Please correct me if I'm wrong, but who is left besides ExpressJet (L-ASA) that is actually operating CRJ-200 as a separate category? |
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