GoJet Embarassment
12-29-2013 | 01:59 PM
#41
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On the CRJ 700 you have to shut both fuel boost pumps during single engine taxi, or you get a large fuel imbalance. Maybe they forgot this and thought gravity cross flow would fix it faster. And also on all CRJs you can't sit more than 10 minutes with your lights on for cooling purposes. Sounds like these guys aren't too up on their systems knowledge. But hey, all DAL cares about is cheap feed...
ASA 's procedure is to turn off both boost pump switches on during single. Leaving the operating engine boost pump switch on accomplishes the same thing since there is no low pressure sensed.
I've jumpsat on a Mesa 700 and I noticed they use the boost pump switch on operating engine technique .
12-29-2013 | 02:18 PM
#42
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Ours are on from engine start checklist to parking checklist here at eagle. (Except for the check valve test)
12-29-2013 | 02:29 PM
#43
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More GoJet haters...jeez dudes, find something productive to do with your time!!
12-29-2013 | 02:57 PM
#44
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From: Thrill Seat
This morning in RDU there was a GoJet who was sitting in the runup pad with its lights left on (while dark out, facing oncoming taxiing aircraft).
Then came the absurdity:
After sitting there for a while they asked ground if they could taxi around the airport making all right turns in order to assist with fuel crossfeeding. I have never heard of anything so ridiculous.
I was just imagining being a paying passenger on this flight. Wow.
Ground said that they could send them to a pad where they would spin around in 360s as long as they wanted. They responded "sure sounds great".
A few questions
1) Why did they even consider this?
2) How the he!! did they explain this to passengers?
3) Why did the Captain decide to leave the gate with such an imbalance? Did he have any backbone to just have the fueler fix the problem, or to call maintenance and have them deal with the issue?
Pretty embarrassing to the piloting profession. Not trying to monday morning quarterback but I wouldn't have left the gate and put passengers in such an awkward strange situation...."spinning around on a taxiway due to a fuel problem."
Then came the absurdity:
After sitting there for a while they asked ground if they could taxi around the airport making all right turns in order to assist with fuel crossfeeding. I have never heard of anything so ridiculous.
I was just imagining being a paying passenger on this flight. Wow.
Ground said that they could send them to a pad where they would spin around in 360s as long as they wanted. They responded "sure sounds great".
A few questions
1) Why did they even consider this?
2) How the he!! did they explain this to passengers?
3) Why did the Captain decide to leave the gate with such an imbalance? Did he have any backbone to just have the fueler fix the problem, or to call maintenance and have them deal with the issue?
Pretty embarrassing to the piloting profession. Not trying to monday morning quarterback but I wouldn't have left the gate and put passengers in such an awkward strange situation...."spinning around on a taxiway due to a fuel problem."
You're not gods gift to Aviation #1
#2: when I flew at Eagle we had to do the same one day because we had a cross flow pump MEL. We left the gate with balanced fuel and started both engines. By time we made it to the "white concrete" in LGA we had a 1000 pound imbalance. Did I mention we started both engines and this still occurred on a Next Gen CRJ-700.
#3: I know you're probably the Airbus god or goddess and probably a peach to fly with but save the stupid comments for a different board.
#4: just so I don't have to read your presumptuous remarks I'm not at Go Jets nor any other regional but I'm not ashamed nor do I forget where I came from unlike you!
12-29-2013 | 06:27 PM
#46
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From: Zee Airboos
I say hats off to the crew for gettin er done. 10min delay for a couple 360's on the ramp or an hour to defuel. I'm sure the pax would much rather take the 10min. Thankfully i never ran into that problem on the crj, but i'm sure if i did, i would have done the same thing they did.....especially on day 4.
12-29-2013 | 06:54 PM
#47
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From: Airbus button pusher
This morning in RDU there was a GoJet who was sitting in the runup pad with its lights left on (while dark out, facing oncoming taxiing aircraft).
Then came the absurdity:
After sitting there for a while they asked ground if they could taxi around the airport making all right turns in order to assist with fuel crossfeeding. I have never heard of anything so ridiculous.
I was just imagining being a paying passenger on this flight. Wow.
Ground said that they could send them to a pad where they would spin around in 360s as long as they wanted. They responded "sure sounds great".
A few questions
1) Why did they even consider this?
2) How the he!! did they explain this to passengers?
3) Why did the Captain decide to leave the gate with such an imbalance? Did he have any backbone to just have the fueler fix the problem, or to call maintenance and have them deal with the issue?
Pretty embarrassing to the piloting profession. Not trying to monday morning quarterback but I wouldn't have left the gate and put passengers in such an awkward strange situation...."spinning around on a taxiway due to a fuel problem."
Then came the absurdity:
After sitting there for a while they asked ground if they could taxi around the airport making all right turns in order to assist with fuel crossfeeding. I have never heard of anything so ridiculous.
I was just imagining being a paying passenger on this flight. Wow.
Ground said that they could send them to a pad where they would spin around in 360s as long as they wanted. They responded "sure sounds great".
A few questions
1) Why did they even consider this?
2) How the he!! did they explain this to passengers?
3) Why did the Captain decide to leave the gate with such an imbalance? Did he have any backbone to just have the fueler fix the problem, or to call maintenance and have them deal with the issue?
Pretty embarrassing to the piloting profession. Not trying to monday morning quarterback but I wouldn't have left the gate and put passengers in such an awkward strange situation...."spinning around on a taxiway due to a fuel problem."
12-29-2013 | 06:57 PM
#48
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From: Airbus button pusher
On the CRJ 700 you have to shut both fuel boost pumps during single engine taxi, or you get a large fuel imbalance. Maybe they forgot this and thought gravity cross flow would fix it faster. And also on all CRJs you can't sit more than 10 minutes with your lights on for cooling purposes. Sounds like these guys aren't too up on their systems knowledge. But hey, all DAL cares about is cheap feed...
12-29-2013 | 07:20 PM
#49
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From: Rollin' Down tha 405
Shots fired!
12-29-2013 | 07:29 PM
#50
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From: Poodle Whisperer
You haven't flown the plane in how many years and you still remember that? Impressive.
ASA 's procedure is to turn off both boost pump switches on during single. Leaving the operating engine boost pump switch on accomplishes the same thing since there is no low pressure sensed.
I've jumpsat on a Mesa 700 and I noticed they use the boost pump switch on operating engine technique .
ASA 's procedure is to turn off both boost pump switches on during single. Leaving the operating engine boost pump switch on accomplishes the same thing since there is no low pressure sensed.
I've jumpsat on a Mesa 700 and I noticed they use the boost pump switch on operating engine technique .
We ran only the operating side selected on at 9E. Not that they are the epitome of operating procedures, but it works. Turning both off, whatever.. accomplishing the same thing.
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