Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 2042560)

Delta has been known to cancel a regional's contract for not hitting performance metrics, and GoJet is not even close to the contractual minimum performance right now. (see Freedom) So keep that in mind when you say the flying isn't going anywhere... It's going elsewhere every day because GoJet can't cover it. Reserves at the rest of the DCI carriers are sitting reserve for GoJet at the same time.

Originally Posted by MrStl (Post 2042396)

I see several posts from a year ago saying the contract is coming soon. I talk to people who tell me that GJ union is merely asking for a middle range contract of what is already out there. Middle of pay rates and a few other things but none of the other things that Skywest and the others already have. Shouldn't they be going for a top pay contract so they are not back at the bottom again in a few months?

300% open time pay and they can't get people to fly or to go there, something is not being said. Gojet's contract with United is coming up soon. United does not want the CRJs and I don't think will renew. Does GJ have a plan? Will the CRJs be moved out of Chicago and Denver to Raleigh and New York? I'm hearing that is what is being looked at. Any info on any of this?

I know a lot of people that went there and almost all have left. They all recommend against going there. Does GJ have a future? Seems like 300% pay is better then the contract they are asking for. If they are flying you 90 hours a month you cannot pickup much of the 300% pay. They limit you to 97 hours a month so that would be 7 hours at triple time of 24 an hour. 7 times 24 times 3 is how much extra a month? 209 a month I think. 2400 a year. That is not much but 300% does sound like a lot. Who is giving 22k plus the overtime?

Originally Posted by 977flyer (Post 2042654)

There have been some issues with the new Luftansa system but it's getting ironed out. G7 isn't losing any flying. I'd like to think there's a new industry leading contract coming but don't hold your breath for that. Industry average is about the best it's going to get.

Originally Posted by theycallmered (Post 2042660)

GoJet has a future because we are cheap. That's how the regional industry works. And prior to the software switch, our performance numbers were not bad.

Originally Posted by theycallmered (Post 2042660)

GoJet has a future because we are cheap. That's how the regional industry works. And prior to the software switch, our performance numbers were not bad.

And limited to 97 hours month? I have no idea where you got that from. Many guys are crediting well over 100 hours a month with the open time pickup. Personally I've been enjoying living in base with 16 days off and good schedules so yeah, in my situation GoJet is a good stepping stone. Not to mention there is basically no reserve time if you're a new hire. I'm not saying this company is the best by any stretch of the imagination, but if you want to move up a short seniority list and have some QOL, it can work for you.

Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 2042560)

Delta has been known to cancel a regional's contract for not hitting performance metrics, and GoJet is not even close to the contractual minimum performance right now. (see Freedom)

Originally Posted by minimwage4 (Post 2042707)

How many on the list actually get 16 days off? Is that due to your pbs?

Originally Posted by taters (Post 2042792)

Which is exactly what by the way ? Just curious what numbers you have since I have the pdf in my possession going all the back to 2012 that lets say doesn't exactly support what your saying with the exception of about 1 month . Freedom/Mesa's contract was primarily terminated due to egregious business practices , unless your Bryan Williams at NBC maybe you should let us see all these facts , keep in mind I do realize this is the Internet , where everyone is right

Originally Posted by 404yxl (Post 2042698)

Don't be shocked to see your flying shifted back to mainline or Endeavor in the coming years. As for the issues, the problems will be do to staffing issues, not Luftansa, which will occur unless Gojet matches or leap frogs a type of package Endeavor offers. If not, they will struggle to staff in the coming years and Delta will be able to cancel their flying due to that. If you think I said that because I'm a Endeavor pilot, I'm not, just stating what is likely to occur with the current dynamics of what Delta is doing with Endeavor and the compensation/movement package.


Being cheap won't secure the future in this pilot staffing market. The regional that offers a compensation/movement package near Endeavor's will be the only type that will survive. And to achieve that level of compensation/movement, their mainline partners will need to pay them far more than they are now. Republic is already finding that hard to accomplish.

No matter how much the Gojet cheerleaders will lead you to believe, Gojet is no where near that. It was founded on the idea to subvert the TSA pilot group on decent 70-seat payrates and staffed with TSA pilots out of seniority. If you honestly think an airline founded on that premise will change, you're sorely mistaken.

Originally Posted by Dhood84 (Post 2042903)

No I think you said that because there is a rumor floating around your message boards that 9E is taking our -700's. Look at Republic and Delta.....they're still flying aren't they? The flying just doesn't go away overnight.

DH