Originally Posted by Hawaiiavi8er

This is probably the dumbest post I've read all month. Makes no sense.

Originally Posted by wmupilot85

And that's the exact reason why this part of the industry is a crap hole. People think it should only be a stepping stone, and could careless what happens in it. Maybe if we stepped away from that mentality, we could get some actual gains for the regionals.

Originally Posted by FirstClass

Why do you want to keep it alive? Take a look at the bigger picture. Wouldn't it be better to have all this flying brought back in house at a major? Others who think differently than you might argue that you are the reason why things are so bad with your mentality.

Originally Posted by schmohawk

Exactly , not everyone is guranteed a call from the majors , no matter how many are supposed to retire there. I'd rather spend another 2 years as an FO at a decent place than suck it up and pray for a call from the big three that may never come.

Edit: grammar

Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot

Well Nancy, you don't. You keep it unattractive for a little while longer and force mainline to take the flying back. "Regionals" will exist but won't be doing 50-60% of the commercial flying. Even if pay at the regionals was suddenly doubled, it's still years before all the new bright eyed, bushy tailed new pilots will be qualified. The regionals need pilots now.

If you're riding out your regional and not looking to move on, you've decided the crasppy industry is good enough where it's at. You've decided the garbage pay and contracts are enough because of some nonmonetary quality of life gain. You've decided your overall compensation is enough. Why would they consider giving you more?

Mainline will never have a staffing issue. If all the flying was absorbed by mainline tomorrow, they will be just fine for the few years it will take for pilots to get through college and their ATP. People will enter the industry and incur the expense for $70 an hour.

Originally Posted by FirstClass

Bingo.

I can't for the life of me understand why these guys would want to preserve something so useless. Every time you make things better at your regional all you are doing is adding another rung on the ladder.

Originally Posted by Hawaiiavi8er

This is probably the dumbest post I've read all month. Makes no sense.

Originally Posted by MrStl

Endeavor is giving everyone a 20k per year retention bonus. Envoy started today to give everyone a 10k per year bonus for staying (2500 per quarter).

Gojet's union has negotiated a 50% raise for the first year guys but what about the rest? They get a whopping 7%. Didn't the Gojet contract expire in 2012? 7% after 4 years is 1.75% per year which is a little less than inflation.

Why on earth should any regional airline captain be getting paid less than 100k per year? With a huge pilot shortage why are the Gojet pilots being asked to take less than inflation, a payout?

Why is the union asking the pilots to ratify this? Often mediators ask unions to put the company's offer before the union members to see if perhaps the union is just asking for much more than the members are willing to take. Gojet will pay much more than this contract provides. If Gojet wants pilots they need to pay them.

Originally Posted by Eaglepilot84

Not that I give two sh!ts about GoJet, but dude...you willingly went to work for GoJet, what did you expect?! Did you not know of GoJets history before getting hired there? That's a serious question btw.